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Nine new Metro Projects have been sanctioned for Ahmedabad, Nagpur, Lucknow, Chennai (Extension), Pune and Noida-Greater, Noida and Delhi, with a total length of about 180 km at a total cost of about Rs. 49,000 crore http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1514787 

 
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is metro needed for vijayawada and visakhapatnam cities? is it financially viable for these cities?  instead of spending money on these useless projects for show off it is better to utilize money on irrigation projects. our state needs to overcome drought  by completing pending irrigation projects and godavari penna interlinking of rivers . 

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Vizag population is around 25 lakhs. if we don't start planning the infrastructure from now itself we cannot do ever. if not metro at least suburban trains(like MMTS) will work. if you see in the past MMTS in HYD was bleeding in the beginning but now it's in good shape.

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7 minutes ago, sagarkurapati said:

200% full ayna sare metro losses lo unnai vizag , Vijayawada lanti places lo 100% full kuda doubt ne

 

9 minutes ago, ravindras said:

is metro needed for vijayawada and visakhapatnam cities? is it financially viable for these cities?  instead of spending money on these useless projects for show off it is better to utilize money on irrigation projects. our state needs to overcome drought  by completing pending irrigation projects and godavari penna interlinking of rivers . 

Same chepparu hyderabad lo metro,  ORR, hightech city  start chesinappudu. What is the situation now in hyderabad? 

Don't think about current situation thank about future also. 

 

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Yes first preference should be for irrigation projects but still for better transportation & to over come traffic problems in future  you should have metro type of transport system in Vijawada & vizag 

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48 minutes ago, Suresh_Ongole said:

 

Same chepparu hyderabad lo metro,  ORR, hightech city  start chesinappudu. What is the situation now in hyderabad? 

Don't think about current situation thank about future also. 

 

 

41 minutes ago, MVS said:

Yes first preference should be for irrigation projects but still for better transportation & to over come traffic problems in future  you should have metro type of transport system in Vijawada & vizag 

do we have enough money to spend on irrigation and metro projects simultaneously? my point is tdp lost 2004 elections due to neglecting agrarian crisis/irrigation projects  and continuous drought. we can't afford to loose elections again. if we complete irrigation projects first and overcome drought, tdp can win the hearts of  farmers and farm labours and villagers. water is basic necessity of surviving any living being. we have to give more priority on basic necessities later we can spend on luxuries. people can live without metro as they have alternative travel modes , but people can't live without water. if the ground water level dips then there is problem of fluoride which makes our bones weak. even young people  looks like old . you can see this problem in nalgonda/prakasam districts.

let us assume tdp government spend 20,000 crores on metro of both cities. some 60,000 crores crores on amaravati capital projects .  how many mla seats tdp can gain. if this government spend same money on irrigation projects and overcome drought how many seats we can gain. just compare it. currently tdp is has positive opinion on urban voters, by overcoming drought we can solidify votebank in rural areas. as we know polling percentage in rural areas are more compare to urban areas. basically rural people are loyal voters compared urban voters. cbn almost double the salaries of govt employee are they showing any loyality towards him? 

manam blind gaa cbn ki bhajana cheste , cbn ki tdp ki vupayogam vundadu . 2004 election lo hyderabad lo koodaa tdp vodipoyindi .  

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/Fluoride-problem-accentuates-renal-diseases-in-Prakasam/article17001338.ece

 

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3 minutes ago, ravindras said:

 

do we have enough money to spend on irrigation and metro projects simultaneously? my point is tdp lost 2004 elections due to neglecting agrarian crisis/irrigation projects  and continuous drought. we can't afford to loose elections again. if we complete irrigation projects first and overcome drought, tdp can win the hearts of  farmers and farm labours and villagers. water is basic necessity of surviving any living being. we have to give more priority on basic necessities later we can spend on luxuries. people can live without metro as they have alternative travel modes , but people can't live without water. if the ground water level dips then there is problem of fluoride which makes our bones weak. even young people  looks like old . you can see this problem in nalgonda/prakasam districts.

let us assume tdp government spend 20,000 crores on metro of both cities. some 60,000 crores crores on amaravati capital projects .  how many mla seats tdp can gain. if this government spend same money on irrigation projects and overcome drought how many seats we can gain. just compare it. currently tdp is has positive opinion on urban voters, by overcoming drought we can solidify votebank in rural areas. as we know polling percentage in rural areas are more compare to urban areas. basically rural people are loyal voters compared urban voters. cbn almost double the salaries of govt employee are they showing any loyality towards him? 

manam blind gaa cbn ki bhajana cheste , cbn ki tdp ki vupayogam vundadu . 2004 election lo hyderabad lo koodaa tdp vodipoyindi .  

 

 

partially agree with you brother...both should go hand in hand. our cities should also develop as they are main income source for service sector. Jica proposed loan of 6000 cr with around 1% interest though it didn't materialize for Amaravathi metro. Metros will also reduce carbon emissions which is good for future. You must also remember that CBN is more aggressive in irrigation sector than 1996-2004, but still lot to do.

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35 minutes ago, ravindras said:

 

do we have enough money to spend on irrigation and metro projects simultaneously? my point is tdp lost 2004 elections due to neglecting agrarian crisis/irrigation projects  and continuous drought. we can't afford to loose elections again. if we complete irrigation projects first and overcome drought, tdp can win the hearts of  farmers and farm labours and villagers. water is basic necessity of surviving any living being. we have to give more priority on basic necessities later we can spend on luxuries. people can live without metro as they have alternative travel modes , but people can't live without water. if the ground water level dips then there is problem of fluoride which makes our bones weak. even young people  looks like old . you can see this problem in nalgonda/prakasam districts.

let us assume tdp government spend 20,000 crores on metro of both cities. some 60,000 crores crores on amaravati capital projects .  how many mla seats tdp can gain. if this government spend same money on irrigation projects and overcome drought how many seats we can gain. just compare it. currently tdp is has positive opinion on urban voters, by overcoming drought we can solidify votebank in rural areas. as we know polling percentage in rural areas are more compare to urban areas. basically rural people are loyal voters compared urban voters. cbn almost double the salaries of govt employee are they showing any loyality towards him? 

manam blind gaa cbn ki bhajana cheste , cbn ki tdp ki vupayogam vundadu . 2004 election lo hyderabad lo koodaa tdp vodipoyindi .  

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/Fluoride-problem-accentuates-renal-diseases-in-Prakasam/article17001338.ece

 

Next time successful ga 9 lo odipotharu prakasam lo 

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1 hour ago, Jeevgorantla said:

Vizag population is around 25 lakhs. if we don't start planning the infrastructure from now itself we cannot do ever. if not metro at least suburban trains(like MMTS) will work. if you see in the past MMTS in HYD was bleeding in the beginning but now it's in good shape.

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2 hours ago, sagarkurapati said:

200% full ayna sare metro losses lo unnai vizag , Vijayawada lanti places lo 100% full kuda doubt ne

bro world lo 180 metros vunte only 4 running in profits ...public transport eppudu profit kosam nadaparu...India lo bus transportation lo KSRTC tappiste anni thousands crores losses lo vunnayi ala ani mooseyyaru kada

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If we have a fair society then logically speaking metro and urban devlopment is much more important than agricultural development and irrigation. We are spending 50,000 crores on polavaram which stabilizes 12 laks acres and provide slightly higher income to about 3-4 lakh farmers. The same 50k crores can lay foundation to another solid city like amaravati which can provide entirely new and much higher income to lakhs of people. The same 50k can double rail connectivity in andhra or expressways in andhra. All these are much higher rewarding, less environmental effect and more needed. The world already produces more than enough food.

But there are two problems - one ) we have the most unequal society in the world. And any open competitive devlopment is disproportionately occupied by few castes who dont re-invest the money back to society but hoard it in gold or build caste based satras etc. And farming communities will end up as complete losers.

two) we live in stupid form of government called democracy which encourages people to vote for their own subsidies instead of voting for future such as infrastructure and cities.

All this means is yes lets secure agri incomes before going to cities - its inefficient way but i think we are stuck with it though without a social reform.

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32 minutes ago, LuvNTR said:

Polavaram is waste ani maathrame raasavu. nee posts lo maaza vosthondi thammudu. :sleep:

No what I am saying is if logically AP govt had 50,000 crores completely in its hand and does not need to worry about voting nonsese then polavaram is a poor investment. Much better investment is to develop urban areas - after all a single square yard of developed urban land is more valuable than a acre of pure agri land (no highway etc). 

But in this case I fully support polavaram for following reasons :

a) Finance - there is no chance of GoI financing 50,000 crores solely for urban infratructure in Andhra. They will rather give to gujarat. Showing a single mega easily understandable emotional project is much easier to get funding.

b ) Execution - Indian bureacracy is notoriously corrupt and inefficient. But chances of ineffeciency are less in a large project which everyone can see than hundreds of more profitable smaller spends.

c) Fruits of devlopment - Delhi is an unethical nation. Even if we work hard and develop a new city there is no guarentee delhi will not interfere and steal it from us like in Hyd. Delhi always enjoys if two groups - especially if there are groups of south indains quarrel - and always ready to break them in to two - it is really no different from british divide and rule - atleast british were known to be great city builders in the past. In case of polavaram the benefits go exclusively to telugu farmers - period.

d) Politics - our mostly illiterate and lets be frank stupid population gets more sentimental with farmers and pictures of nice villages. Votes ralthai. But city devlopment they cant understand and seem to promote jealousies.

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