Chandasasanudu Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, ChiefMinister said: U r completely comparing with wring examples and daanni malla society minda ruddestunnaru… First assalu outsourcing , service sectors ela pani chestaayo okkasari study cheyyandi.. they wont even pay a single penny for the extra hours you work … 2008 lo and now present fresher salaries are more or less the same…when u consider factors like inflation, houserent etc., the growth in salaries is nothing .. matti burralu batch...why u consider it for job work...18 hours hard work in general ga theesuko....8 hours job perfect ga chey....and focus remaining time on other works..part time business, any future plans etc....dont have to be slave to ur employer...put additional efforts to define ur future role...use that time to chase ur dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 53 minutes ago, Chandasasanudu said: matti burralu batch...why u consider it for job work...18 hours hard work in general ga theesuko....8 hours job perfect ga chey....and focus remaining time on other works..part time business, any future plans etc....dont have to be slave to ur employer...put additional efforts to define ur future role...use that time to chase ur dreams Did they mean the same..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntrrules7 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Chandasasanudu said: matti burralu batch...why u consider it for job work...18 hours hard work in general ga theesuko....8 hours job perfect ga chey....and focus remaining time on other works..part time business, any future plans etc....dont have to be slave to ur employer...put additional efforts to define ur future role...use that time to chase ur dreams ikada andaru job perspective lone thinking...so miru chepedi yekkatla basic ga ayana chepindi kastapadamani...mi job lone kastapadali anukuntunaru... idem narayaa murthy kothaa chepindi kadu ...when u love the work you do, you don't even count hours... but no one can know what they love because that doesn't pay us well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandasasanudu Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, ntrrules7 said: ikada andaru job perspective lone thinking...so miru chepedi yekkatla basic ga ayana chepindi kastapadamani...mi job lone kastapadali anukuntunaru... idem narayaa murthy kothaa chepindi kadu ...when u love the work you do, you don't even count hours... but no one can know what they love because that doesn't pay us well unfortunately we are only working for pay...none of us love our job....if so ikkada evaru complaint cheyaru...if u want to be successul as an employee...need to work extra hours....need to be outstanding than others....entha sepu hours count esukunta unte....u remain as an employee...learn as much as u can and move to different roles if the company or environment is not encouraging....asala aadu nee meeda entha sampdisthunnadu anna edupu thappa...neeku emi cheddam emi aim cheddam in life anedi ledu...typical roju kooli thinking deggara aagopyaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Chandasasanudu said: unfortunately we are only working for pay...none of us love our job....if so ikkada evaru complaint cheyaru...if u want to be successul as an employee...need to work extra hours....need to be outstanding than others....entha sepu hours count esukunta unte....u remain as an employee...learn as much as u can and move to different roles if the company or environment is not encouraging....asala aadu nee meeda entha sampdisthunnadu anna edupu thappa...neeku emi cheddam emi aim cheddam in life anedi ledu...typical roju kooli thinking deggara aagopyaru Increase u r skill not hours… malli meere tirigi tirigi ikkada employer ku work cheyyandi annattu post pettaru… instead of our own dream.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatuGadu Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Busyness man maatalu... sati business tycoon @Chandasasanudu kee ardhamavuthayi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Chandasasanudu said: unfortunately we are only working for pay...none of us love our job....if so ikkada evaru complaint cheyaru...if u want to be successul as an employee...need to work extra hours....need to be outstanding than others....entha sepu hours count esukunta unte....u remain as an employee...learn as much as u can and move to different roles if the company or environment is not encouraging....asala aadu nee meeda entha sampdisthunnadu anna edupu thappa...neeku emi cheddam emi aim cheddam in life anedi ledu...typical roju kooli thinking deggara aagopyaru Tell to your comapny that u love u r job a lot and u dont need salary from them because u have enough passion regarding u r job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatuGadu Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Daily 10 to 15 hours already dovbinchukuntunnaru konni companies lo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandasasanudu Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: Increase u r skill not hours… malli meere tirigi tirigi ikkada employer ku work cheyyandi annattu post pettaru… instead of our own dream.. depends on what u aim....first 3 years naaku job ee important...adi thappa vere emi alochinchala....so worked for several hours...holidauys koods thakkuva....tharvatha business lu ani started....appudu naaku job lo success akkarla...as i found different interest and motivation...but i acheive my targets 100% ...not 150% as before...so promotions rala....increment ledu ani nagging undadu....core point is hard working is important...adi lekunda success undadu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Chandasasanudu said: depends on what u aim....first 3 years naaku job ee important...adi thappa vere emi alochinchala....so worked for several hours...holidauys koods thakkuva....tharvatha business lu ani started....appudu naaku job lo success akkarla...as i found different interest and motivation...but i acheive my targets 100% ...not 150% as before...so promotions rala....increment ledu ani nagging undadu....core point is hard working is important...adi lekunda success undadu When u acheive 100 pc what else is needed ?? Why they are not considering for promotions?? I feel this is not correct… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnk@vja Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Manaki own company undi aa company lo workers owners expectations ki reach avakapothe ilanti sodi matale cheptharu mee startups kosam kastapadandi mee business growth kosam kastapadandi ani okka mata ekkada cheppaledu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 25 minutes ago, ntrrules7 said: ikada andaru job perspective lone thinking...so miru chepedi yekkatla basic ga ayana chepindi kastapadamani...mi job lone kastapadali anukuntunaru... idem narayaa murthy kothaa chepindi kadu ...when u love the work you do, you don't even count hours... but no one can know what they love because that doesn't pay us well Employer also should recognize the efforts they should pay extra …else why we have to log unnecessary hours..i hope u r not in management.?? Once people become old aged and retire from their job, then they will understand the real problems..financially etc., they might not be able to sustain and run the family… what they acheived will be nothing with love for their job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 20 minutes ago, NatuGadu said: Busyness man maatalu... sati business tycoon @Chandasasanudu kee ardhamavuthayi He is a manager so we can understand ….. he needs only hours.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntrrules7 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 31 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: Employer also should recognize the efforts they should pay extra …else why we have to log unnecessary hours..i hope u r not in management.?? Once people become old aged and retire from their job, then they will understand the real problems..financially etc., they might not be able to sustain and run the family… what they acheived will be nothing with love for their job.. No one here is contradicting that employers are not paying well.. You are mixing up two things...they never said you should work extra time and get same salary Working for the things what we love can never be measured monetary terms... Suppose, you like your kid and you spend time for his happiness, do you count money there ? Similar way if you are working for things you love, you dont count money. For sure, corporates are sucking work and paying lesser wages. Your perspective is ending with the hours you put in office . Balance the work for the pay you get and work on other things(extra work time) which you might love and can make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, ntrrules7 said: No one here is contradicting that employers are not paying well.. You are mixing up two things...they never said you should work extra time and get same salary Working for the things what we love can never be measured monetary terms... Suppose, you like your kid and you spend time for his happiness, do you count money there ? Similar way if you are working for things you love, you dont count money. For sure, corporates are sucking work and paying lesser wages. Your perspective is ending with the hours you put in office . Balance the work for the pay you get and work on other things(extra work time) which you might love and can make money. Bro i hope u understand rhe ststement given in the video.. if not please go through again… this statement is completely different from what u posted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntrrules7 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 27 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: Bro i hope u understand rhe ststement given in the video.. if not please go through again… this statement is completely different from what u posted.. Work very hard for betterment of society ... This is what I interpreted Didn't understand how you are linking it to Infosys or our job alone? They told in general we should work hard as a responsible citizen. If the statement is about our job , I would be happy to support your perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, ntrrules7 said: Work very hard for betterment of society ... This is what I interpreted Didn't understand how you are linking it to Infosys or our job alone? They told in general we should work hard as a responsible citizen. If the statement is about our job , I would be happy to support your perspective If they really meant the same then they will never bring hours concept as a part of their statement… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING007 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Jeetham penchakunda enni sukthulu cheppina vrudha prayase Prathi vishayam dabbu tho ne mudipadi untundi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Good to see all the bench warmers who believe in long hours rather than productivity support their fellow boomer Murthy garu Clear indication of why our country hasn't progressed the way it was supposed to because these fellow boomers of Murthy garu in our DB believed in sitting long hours at office and warming the bench rather than working productively with good time management practices. Ekkada pothayi cheap margin mindset. Extra hours work cheyyadam, client ki extra bill veyyadam in dollars and paying peanuts to the bench warmers. Ofcourse bench warmers ki adhey kavali but still this speaks volumes of the culture of our traditional service based Indian IT sector. If not for the start up ecosystem, courtesy of the millennials and genZ our IT industry would have still stayed back at L1/L2 on call support granting a group monopoly to Infy, TCS, Wipro, HCL and TechM to warm the benches especially at night (US time zone friendly) and cheat the client with less productivity and more man hours. Thank God our younger generation is taking the country in the right direction at least now. Well, better late than never BTW, the same Murthy Garu's company fired 100's of employees under moonlighting clause 🤣 even though they allow gig work and freelancing as per the policy which is a clear indication of what Murthy ji wants to convey. Oodigam cheyyali, adhi naaku maatramey cheyyali. As usual boomers on this thread not understanding the context behind Murthy Ji's animuthyalu and taking his side is a clear indication of the herd mentality of the book, boom, boomer gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 16 minutes ago, James Bond said: Good to see all the bench warmers who believe in long hours rather than productivity support their fellow boomer Murthy garu Clear indication of why our country hasn't progressed the way it was supposed to because these fellow boomers of Murthy garu in our DB believed in sitting long hours at office and warming the bench rather than working productively with good time management practices. Ekkada pothayi cheap margin mindset. Extra hours work cheyyadam, client ki extra bill veyyadam in dollars and paying peanuts to the bench warmers. Ofcourse bench warmers ki adhey kavali but still this speaks volumes of the culture our traditional service based Indian IT sector. If not for the start up ecosystem, courtesy of the millennials and genZ our IT industry would have still stayed back at L1/L2 on call support granting a group monopoly to Infy, TCS, Wipro, HCL and TechM to warm the benches especially at night (US time zone friendly) and cheat the client with less productivity and more man hours. Thank God our younger generation is taking the country in the right direction at least now. Well, better late than never BTW, the same Murthy Garu's company fired 100's of employees for moonlight 🤣 even though they allow gig work and freelancing as per the policy which is a clear indication of what Murthy ji wants to convey. Oodigam cheyyali, adhi naaku maatramey cheyyali. As usual boomers on this thread not understanding the context behind Murthy Ji's animuthyalu and taking his side is a clear indication of the herd mentality of the book, boom, boomer gen I feel these service based companies were unsuccessful in creating their own product … i feel ZOHO like companies are really far far better than these .. what he acheived in such a small time is very big compared to these companies.. Consider this example @Chandasasanudu… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, ChiefMinister said: I feel these service based companies were unsuccessful in creating their own product … i feel ZOHO like companies are really far far better than these .. what he acheived in such a small time is very big compared to these companies.. Yup! Zoho & Freshworks are light years better than these so called IT moghuls' organisations. Murthy garu had first mover advantage in IT with very minimal players but still they do not have any products worth speaking about even after DECADES. The only thing they are proud of is that human factory in Mysore 😝 BTW Murthy garu is a supporter of communism and was a staunch supporter of CPI (M) in his younger years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntrrules7 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Is IT the only industry murthy garu spoke about? India motham kalipina 50 lakh employees undaru..adokkate pani ainatu anukuntunarenti andaru... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatuGadu Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, ntrrules7 said: Is IT the only industry murthy garu spoke about? India motham kalipina 50 lakh employees undaru..adokkate pani ainatu anukuntunarenti andaru... Major employment ichhe private sector lo eppudo vundhi unofficial 10 plus hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntrrules7 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, NatuGadu said: Major employment ichhe private sector lo eppudo vundhi unofficial 10 plus hours Yes asal apart from IT vere vatilo official hours ey count undadu...antha exploit chestaru... Manaku telsina okka well lone holes unnay anukuntunaru....bayata chusthe mi hole chala chinnadani telusthundi.. Think beyond IT ...midokkate kadu undedi...miru probably 10 to 12 percentage gdp contribution....ade lokam anukunte ela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaswanth526 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Last year I worked like this crazy work more than 10 hrs a day Worked 360 days no holidays, no leaves just work on weekends too Unte db, twitter, movie theater or work e 4 lo edo okati chesthu unde vaadini Kakapothe last year chesinanduku naaku ayipoyindhi e year full relax avvali ika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Ayana executive role lone ledu…just giving his thought process… Better listen as he created a 100B company and lifted at least 10L people in his journey..Can you name any other IT/Software company from India created post 2000 in that market cap? You can do better…doesn’t mean he is worthless…. If you think generating a 20B revenue generating projects consistently for 10 years is easy…Try a hand… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krishna_a Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 All founders and entrepreneurs work for more than 70 hrs per week …. And they don’t feel it stressful but enjoy it - stress comes from the feeling of being a failure. They mint money for all the extra efforts if it is successful. They do job for their personal brand, satisfaction and proud feeling. but this 70+ hours to an employee for whom it is just a “job for salary” doesn’t make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 What you feel about startups post 2014 is what one generation felt about service companies..there will be some other trend in 15 more years..life goes on.. You can’t tell we didn’t improve… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, krishna_a said: All founders and entrepreneurs work for more than 70 hrs per week …. And they don’t feel it stressful but enjoy it - stress comes from the feeling of being a failure. They mint money for all the extra efforts if it is successful. They do job for their personal brand, satisfaction and proud feeling. but this 70+ hours to an employee for whom it is just a “job for salary” doesn’t make sense. There is almost no job for salary today…all companies are giving stakes in success/failure to employees through shares/promotikns etc… If you are working hours..you are just happy and good for you… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krishna_a Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, K D No.2 said: There is almost no job for salary today…all companies are giving stakes in success/failure to employees through shares/promotikns etc… If you are working hours..you are just happy and good for you… I agree but Esop is not as compelling when compared to Equity or to some extent MSOPs …. All esops come with market salary and employee has nothing to lose if things don’t work out unless that guy is in the management team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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