ravindras Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 https://www.business-standard.com/industry/auto/1-200-km-range-10-min-charge-toyota-near-solid-state-battery-breakthrough-123102300252_1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhil ch Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Ulligadu. Asalu EV we'll not work. Waste of time. We're working on hydrogen/water annadu Mundu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uravis Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, akhil ch said: Ulligadu. Asalu EV we'll not work. Waste of time. We're working on hydrogen/water annadu Mundu they are against EV , but if they ignore and somehow future becomes EV they will shut down like Nokia. 1200km range and 10 min charge ante andari G lo bomb lagadenge anattu literally. price will be key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatuGadu Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Aa price ki ultra high end kooda can't afford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, akhil ch said: Ulligadu. Asalu EV we'll not work. Waste of time. We're working on hydrogen/water annadu Mundu dont underestimate toyota.. They are always succesful in bringing alternative plans now the battery what they are claiming is different from the ones in the market.. idi gani success ayithe Tesla pisukkovalsindee....fail ayithe something different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: dont underestimate toyota.. They are always succesful in bringing alternative plans now the battery what they are claiming is different from the ones in the market.. idi gani success ayithe Tesla pisukkovalsindee....fail ayithe something different... deenikante mundhu.. VM, Ford & GM vi ilanti sollu news chalane vachayi.. production loki digaka.. hand-ups annai... everyone loosing money.. apple car ani hadavidi chesaru.. enni years ayindi.. ae stage ki vachindi? veedi hydrogen cars status enti? veedu idi research cheyyali.. prototype success avvali.. production level car cheyyali.. adi testing pass avvali.. enni years? Projected to release by 2027/28.. appatiki market lo enthamandi traditional automakers migultharu.. appativaraku Tesla growth sangathi enti.. akkada emi R&D jaragatledu kada.. btw Tesla ki enni evs market loki vasthe antha business auvdhi..  ee toyota/honda kanna.. Hyundai better position lo untadi EV market share wise.. in next 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Solid state batteries lo still lot of research needed in regards to safety as well.. hope someone succeed in it.. it is important to move away from current Lithium batteries, since many rare earth minerals are involved in battery cheminal compositions.. Whoever gets the solid state battery technology first, doesn't matter, it'll help whole EV industry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, Husker said: deenikante mundhu.. VM, Ford & GM vi ilanti sollu news chalane vachayi.. production loki digaka.. hand-ups annai... everyone loosing money.. apple car ani hadavidi chesaru.. enni years ayindi.. ae stage ki vachindi? veedi hydrogen cars status enti? veedu idi research cheyyali.. prototype success avvali.. production level car cheyyali.. adi testing pass avvali.. enni years? Projected to release by 2027/28.. appatiki market lo enthamandi traditional automakers migultharu.. appativaraku Tesla growth sangathi enti.. akkada emi R&D jaragatledu kada.. btw Tesla ki enni evs market loki vasthe antha business auvdhi..  ee toyota/honda kanna.. Hyundai better position lo untadi EV market share wise.. in next 5 years Still ev market share is very less … though its growing… not every nw buyer is interested… more over Tesla is too much over hyped… social media lo..production analysis chesi chudu Toyota ki unnantha power lo 1 pc vuntundemo Tesla ki.. Hydrogen designs Pedda pedda market players including Toyota already available.. but will be too early to market in this transition phase.. present fuel tho run ayye vehicles market not bad.. they have more market share till 2035…next 5 years lo Toyota loose ayyedemi ledu atleast i feel… charging point infrastructure entha penchina its not so easy with EVs…10 minutes also not a simple time for charging… Inka parts reliability vishayaanikosthey Toyota tho Tesla ni compare kuda cheyyalev Toyota has major market share world wide and are known for producing affordable vehicles for all sections …   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloNTR Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Toyota vadu apple carplay android auto kooda last lo teeskochadu in all models after he did his own thorough research..he doesn't compromise on standards just to get on the EV bandwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tarak Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Toyota vaadu hyryder lanti vehicles same as maruti india lo Vadiladu kada vaati build quality and engine Ela untundi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamaSiddhu J Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 4tarak said: Toyota vaadu hyryder lanti vehicles same as maruti india lo Vadiladu kada vaati build quality and engine Ela untundi Hyrider Best quality.. 8 months waiting period for customized versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 hours ago, RamaSiddhu J said: Hyrider Best quality.. 8 months waiting period for customized versions also i feel hybrids are best options in this market transition phase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalayyaTarak Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 11 hours ago, 4tarak said: Toyota vaadu hyryder lanti vehicles same as maruti india lo Vadiladu kada vaati build quality and engine Ela untundi Whichever are coming into toyota from maruti ir viceversa , they  are the same base cars except rebadging and few minor changes to differentiate between brands structurally they are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4tarak Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 7 hours ago, BalayyaTarak said: Whichever are coming into toyota from maruti ir viceversa , they  are the same base cars except rebadging and few minor changes to differentiate between brands structurally they are the same build quality and engine kosam adiga bro when both have same structure, build quality diff untunda or biscuit like maruthi ani adiga along with engine as well (same question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalayyaTarak Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, 4tarak said: build quality and engine kosam adiga bro when both have same structure, build quality diff untunda or biscuit like maruthi ani adiga along with engine as well (same question) no change in build quality between the shared models  Maruti Toyota lo ammutunnavi same as Maruti  Toyota Innova being bought into Maruti will be same as Toyota innova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uravis Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 12:06 AM, Husker said: deenikante mundhu.. VM, Ford & GM vi ilanti sollu news chalane vachayi.. production loki digaka.. hand-ups annai... everyone loosing money.. apple car ani hadavidi chesaru.. enni years ayindi.. ae stage ki vachindi? veedi hydrogen cars status enti? veedu idi research cheyyali.. prototype success avvali.. production level car cheyyali.. adi testing pass avvali.. enni years? Projected to release by 2027/28.. appatiki market lo enthamandi traditional automakers migultharu.. appativaraku Tesla growth sangathi enti.. akkada emi R&D jaragatledu kada.. btw Tesla ki enni evs market loki vasthe antha business auvdhi..  ee toyota/honda kanna.. Hyundai better position lo untadi EV market share wise.. in next 5 years Already fuel cell car undi ga , but fuel is not available vastly as of now. even ford uses fuel cell carries in all their factory works.  competition in EV will be high starting 2025 only, even now new Merc and BMW are doing well (not sales, talking about tech and modes) . All premium segment will be flooded with Merc, BMW, Porsche, Rangerover models and Chineese or Hyundai/Toyota/Honda targetting budget segments. If this happens tesla should comeup with another premium spin off brand as if they sell budget cars, they will loose premium segment customers and vice versa   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ispate Raju Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023  idi gani success ayithe Tesla pisukkovalsindee... 10 minutes also not a simple time for charging…  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 4 hours ago, 4tarak said: build quality and engine kosam adiga bro when both have same structure, build quality diff untunda or biscuit like maruthi ani adiga along with engine as well (same question) in India Toyota vi ayithe old vi standard models ee more reliable... if i am not wrong... now i heard good things about TATA brand also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ispate Raju said:   idi gani success ayithe Tesla pisukkovalsindee... 10 minutes also not a simple time for charging…  highway minda velthu velthu sudden ga car aaguddi.. queue lo 20 cars vuntaayi meedi 21st car... okko car 10 minutes just charging at the charging station anukunte... 20 times (10 + 5) minutes... highway lo em chestaru..? alaanti situation lo almost your waiting time will be around on an average 180 minutes ki takkuva vundadu...  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uravis Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: highway minda velthu velthu sudden ga car aaguddi.. queue lo 20 cars vuntaayi meedi 21st car... okko car 10 minutes just charging at the charging station anukunte... 20 times (10 + 5) minutes... highway lo em chestaru..? alaanti situation lo almost your waiting time will be around on an average 180 minutes ki takkuva vundadu...  rather than charge time that range is more usable , also if ful charge is 10 mins means with 5 min charge we can go 600 right. but that doesnt sound feasible for me. long run batteries might not be able to handle it or degrade much faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uravis Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 23 hours ago, 4tarak said: Toyota vaadu hyryder lanti vehicles same as maruti india lo Vadiladu kada vaati build quality and engine Ela untundi everything same except badge, also it is not bad like previous maruthi cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 minute ago, uravis said: rather than charge time that range is more usable , also if ful charge is 10 mins means with 5 min charge we can go 600 right. but that doesnt sound feasible for me. long run batteries might not be able to handle it or degrade much faster range is useful this is one positive thing... fast charging might degrade the battery health but TESLA claims that their fast charging techniques will not ani.. but i dont have much data about it.. Battery Swapping is one option which can be done faster I feel but needs large ware houses.... EVs ante long holiday trips etc., planning chala jagrathaga cheyyali... range entha vunna..... Solar hybrids are also a good option i feel...  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, uravis said: everything same except badge, also it is not bad like previous maruthi cars. this new joint venture naku enduko quality wise not as good as old toyota ani pistundi... Even in India Toyota Innova, Fortuner,some more high ends tappa migataavi antha build quality super anipinchav... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uravis Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: this new joint venture naku enduko quality wise not as good as old toyota ani pistundi... Even in India Toyota Innova, Fortuner,some more high ends tappa migataavi antha build quality super anipinchav... all are maruthi products and specs, toyota is just rebadging and manufacturing.  only Hycross is toyota product which maruthi sells as Invicto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uravis Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: range is useful this is one positive thing... fast charging might degrade the battery health but TESLA claims that their fast charging techniques will not ani.. but i dont have much data about it.. Battery Swapping is one option which can be done faster I feel but needs large ware houses.... EVs ante long holiday trips etc., planning chala jagrathaga cheyyali... range entha vunna..... Solar hybrids are also a good option i feel...  yes same feeling. plugin hybrids are best for now , you get good mileage and less tension. within city asala petrol use lekunda tiragochu. next best hybrids. But drive feel anedi comletely gone case, aa tyre sound tappa edo dead travel la undi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ispate Raju Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, ChiefMinister said: highway minda velthu velthu sudden ga car aaguddi.. queue lo 20 cars vuntaayi meedi 21st car... okko car 10 minutes just charging at the charging station anukunte... 20 times (10 + 5) minutes... highway lo em chestaru..? alaanti situation lo almost your waiting time will be around on an average 180 minutes ki takkuva vundadu...  that never happened to me or the people I know. If the driver is conscious enough that wouldn’t happen at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Ispate Raju said: that never happened to me or the people I know. If the driver is conscious enough that wouldn’t happen at all. because EV share is very very less now.. if 40pc of the world starts using EVS then you will start feeling the pain... Danni conscious anakudadu tension anali... eppudu EV battery ayipodda ani.. mobile batteries kuda sarigga chusukomu eppudu ayipothama ani... nenu EV vehicles ke pani chesedi.. i am not against to EVS.. ....  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravindras Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 solid state battery ki fast charging scope vundhemo? fast charging tho degrade ayyipothundhi ani enduku anukuntunnaaru. vaatilo matierial composition details inkaa bayatiki raaledhu gaa. solid state battery energy density ekkuva vunte diesel trucks ni electric trucks tho replace cheyyavachu.  fuel indicator elaa choosukuntaaro ev recharge requirement alaane choosukuntaaru. highways lo charging point lu ekkuva pedathaaru. 20 km oka petrol bunk vunte 10 km oka charging point pedathaaru. oka petrol bunk lo 4 diesel 4 petrol filling outlets vunte oka charging station lo 40 charging points pedathaaaru. remote areas lo solar power or other renewable ni encourage chesthaaru. main issue power generation transmission distribution capacity chaalaa peragaaali. air conditioner , other appliances usage ekkuva ayyindhi. veetitho tho paatu family ki one ev car, two ev bikes vunte power requirement chaalaa vuntaadhi. day time lo solar power generation vuntaadhi. night time vundadhu. wind energy koodaa anthe . renewable energy production lo fluctuation ni balance cheyyadaaniki battery storage capacity penchaali. battery price baagaa thaggaali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMinister Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, ravindras said: solid state battery ki fast charging scope vundhemo? fast charging tho degrade ayyipothundhi ani enduku anukuntunnaaru. vaatilo matierial composition details inkaa bayatiki raaledhu gaa. solid state battery energy density ekkuva vunte diesel trucks ni electric trucks tho replace cheyyavachu.  fuel indicator elaa choosukuntaaro ev recharge requirement alaane choosukuntaaru. highways lo charging point lu ekkuva pedathaaru. 20 km oka petrol bunk vunte 10 km oka charging point pedathaaru. oka petrol bunk lo 4 diesel 4 petrol filling outlets vunte oka charging station lo 40 charging points pedathaaaru. remote areas lo solar power or other renewable ni encourage chesthaaru. main issue power generation transmission distribution capacity chaalaa peragaaali. air conditioner , other appliances usage ekkuva ayyindhi. veetitho tho paatu family ki one ev car, two ev bikes vunte power requirement chaalaa vuntaadhi. day time lo solar power generation vuntaadhi. night time vundadhu. wind energy koodaa anthe . renewable energy production lo fluctuation ni balance cheyyadaaniki battery storage capacity penchaali. battery price baagaa thaggaali. these highlighted points also not so easy many areas loo... vallu cheppe 1200 km range without accessories anukuntunna... heat ekkuva vunna places lo manchiga AC on chesi velle daggara range ela vuntundo meere aalochinchaali... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING007 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Entha mandi daggara EV cars unnayi ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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