Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 BENGALURU: With the Friday morning crash of Mirage 2000 claiming lives of two young test pilots, critics mounted attacks on defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, which has already been under scanner for its performance. Meanwhile, the IAF has ordered a court of inquiry (COI), findings of which will be submitted to the air headquarters and the ministry of defence. “One cannot accurately assign responsibility to any agency until the COI is complete,” one source said.‘IAF not equipped with modern machines’ The crash raises serious questions about the PSU’s reliability, and reiterates critics’ views that HAL itself needs a complete overhaul. Retired admiral Arun Prakash tweeted: “The Mirage was not being flown by ordinary pilots; these were superbly trained ASTE (Aircraft and Systems Testing Establishment) test pilots. Mil (military) has, for decades, flown poor quality HAL machines and often paid with young lives but no reckoning of HAL management. Time to focus on leadership and directors of the giant PSU.” HAL received a lot of flak on social media with users criticising it for not delivering machines of acceptable standards. “We generally don’t speak about HAL in public as they are our partners, and also because one shouldn’t advertise our weakness. But there is a big problem,” said an IAF officer. While HAL is usually slammed for delayed deliveries and poor capabilities, the upgrade of Mirage 2000 fleet is about avionics, computers, radars, electronic warfare suites, weapons, pilot-friendly electronic display systems, et al, and not about the landing gear or any other mechanical systems. MP Rajeev Chandrasekhar said on Saturday: “One wheel came off during take off and it veered off the runway...” Offering legal aid to the pilots’ families, he tweeted: “...If families want accountability from HAL —will ensure legal support for them.” Experts cautioned that the age of the aircraft should be taken into account. “Just like any other machine, the older the item, the more prone it is to chinks. The Mirage has been serving the IAF since 1985,” one of them said. The failure on part of the political leadership to equip IAF with modern machines has come under criticism. “The real cost of years of neglecting IAF modernization by callous, crooked politics of some — many lives of bravehearts like Sqn Ldrs Negi and Abrol — our airwarriors are flying 30-year Mirage, 40-year Jaguars and Avros,” Chandrasekhar said in another tweet. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/hindustan-aeronautics-limited-draws-flak-iaf-begins-crash-probe/articleshow/67815384.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gunner Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 HAL ki ivvalaina money ivvakunte valla facilities ni aela develop chesukuntaru & staff ni aeka recruit chesukuntaru... defence budget lo oka portion ni mana own R&D companies lo invest cheyanatha kalam ilanti sad incidents & poor quality machines ae deliver avuthai Govt/Mill deenni Rafel ni HAL ki kakunda Reliance ki ivvataniki saku ga chupakunda... HAL quality aela penchali ani chusthe baguntundi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katti Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 ohhh... ippudu sudden ga HAL midha paddara Baffas? issues ippudu kotta ga vachhaya? They were there from long.. so the solution to this is give contracts to Anil Ambani so that he can setup facilities in Nagpur and Gujarat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gunner said: HAL ki ivvalaina money ivvakunte valla facilities ni aela develop chesukuntaru & staff ni aeka recruit chesukuntaru... defence budget lo oka portion ni mana own R&D companies lo invest cheyanatha kalam ilanti sad incidents & poor quality machines ae deliver avuthai Govt/Mill deenni Rafel ni HAL ki kakunda Reliance ki ivvataniki saku ga chupakunda... HAL quality aela penchali ani chusthe baguntundi Nuvvu kuda naive ga unnav ga Rafael matter lo, reliance is not manufacturing plane dude. It is one of 100 offset partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, katti said: ohhh... ippudu sudden ga HAL midha paddara Baffas? issues ippudu kotta ga vachhaya? They were there from long.. so the solution to this is give contracts to Anil Ambani so that he can setup facilities in Nagpur and Gujarat Ambani is not manufacturing stuff like HAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvNTR Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Better than Reliance le...Contract ki 13 days mundu form ayina company ki ivvadam kanna antho intho man power resources unna company ki ivvadam better. ayina BJP vallu ee HAL ni inka laagakandi....Vallaki saanubuthi perigi meeku self goal avuddi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, LuvNTR said: Better than Reliance le...Contract ki 13 days mundu form ayina company ki ivvadam kanna antho intho man power resources unna company ki ivvadam better. ayina BJP vallu ee HAL ni inka laagakandi....Vallaki saanubuthi perigi meeku self goal avuddi. Ee event tharavatha chala sanubhuthi vachindhi le aapeyi Reliance tho comparison enti, its an offset company. Hal is a manufacturing company doesn't do offsets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swarnandhra Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 yup Ambani is one of the 100 offset partners like Mod is just one MP of the 542 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rajakeeyam said: Nuvvu kuda naive ga unnav ga Rafael matter lo, reliance is not manufacturing plane dude. It is one of 100 offset partners. Rafel lo scam jarigindi ani nenu nammanu kani uncle... HAL ni involve chesi vundalsindi.... Oka pvt org ki knowledge transfer chese kante established govt org ki KT cheyatam long term lo benefical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, swarnandhra said: yup Ambani is one of the 100 offset partners like Mod is just one MP of the 542 ? yes obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Gunner said: Rafel lo scam jarigindi ani nenu nammanu kani uncle... HAL ni involve chesi vundalsindi.... Oka pvt org ki knowledge transfer chese kante established govt org ki KT cheyatam long term lo benefical... Original deal aithe chese vallu, current deal not possible as Airforce is in immediate requirement. Dassault will deliver 36 by 2022. HAL tho pettukunte 2030 ayyedhi. HAL will get other contracts. Already monna Nirmala cheppindhi ga there are many in pipeline ani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskmaestro Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 “Pipeline” ah?! Just like “pratyeka sradha” on AP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palleturu Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Justice dept, RBI, CBI inni xxxedi...idi xxavatam lo tappu ledule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannam Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, sskmaestro said: “Pipeline” ah?! Just like “pratyeka sradha” on AP! పంచ్ అదుర్స్?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balayyatheking Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Ambani ki ichestharule....desh bhakths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, sskmaestro said: “Pipeline” ah?! Just like “pratyeka sradha” on AP! Nope defence contracts have certain procedure, not like pratyeka sradha type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balayyatheking Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, sskmaestro said: “Pipeline” ah?! Just like “pratyeka sradha” on AP! cheppedi okati chesedi okati ee baffa gallu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskmaestro Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Rajakeeyam said: Nope defence contracts have certain procedure, not like pratyeka sradha type “Procedure” antey korrilega? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Worked at HAL Hyderabad as Intern on DHRUV's (Indigenous Advanced Light Combat Helicopter) Communication System. Always proud of this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajakeeyam Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, sskmaestro said: “Procedure” antey korrilega? sort off, proper documentation lekapothe, rafale laga manufactured scam ante, SC lantollaki clarity untundhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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