Code For AP

[AnnaGaru]

This is how it works

- in MEESEVA people show Adangal/EC and register their EMAIL/PHONE NO there
- At the table level there is trigger that sends ALERT the movement any data is touched(tried to rig at local revenue office as the server in remote)

 

That way if FRAUDSTERS tries to RIG the data in local offices then there is ALERT triggered.

Also CBN introducing MEESEVA appointment for Registration. That means the movement MEESEVA appointment is taken we can trigger alert.

 

Compaq,

 

- For email SMTP mailer(AP govt already must be having some SMTP licenses so not an issue) call is made in HTML/TEXT format
- For SMS there is licensed application in India right now already ALL Banks are using this

 

ICICI is using GNU licensed for SMS and that has no legal hurdles.

 

Seriously there is very minimal programming in this whole thing and I implemented these many times in USA.

[AnnaGaru]

COmpaq,

 

<<<<<owner ki alert pampatam ante, ee fraud batch database lo owner details maarchagalaru,.. aa details maarchataaniki kuda oka alert pettali like OTP, to make the system more robust.>>>

 

For the above we already thought of this. Since it is DATABASE level trigger ALERT is sent automatic even in above case.
The only person that can RIG the system is SYSTEM administrator.

 

<<<<<we can also add email print copy meeda owner attestation kuda registrar office lo submit cheyyali,.. in a way registrar can be irked if any issues, appudu false registrations chese vallu kuda bhayapadathaaru>>>>

 

I thought of above and I liked that way. But let's see what others think. Infact if we make that email print copy submission mandatory then that will close all loopholes now.

 

I am sending original PPT to you and feel free to modify it.

[Compaq]

This is how it works

- in MEESEVA people show Adangal/EC and register their EMAIL/PHONE NO there

- At the table level there is trigger that sends ALERT the movement any data is touched(tried to rig at local revenue office as the server in remote)

 

That way if FRAUDSTERS tries to RIG the data in local offices then there is ALERT triggered.

Also CBN introducing MEESEVA appointment for Registration. That means the movement MEESEVA appointment is taken we can trigger alert.

 

Compaq,

 

- For email SMTP mailer(AP govt already must be having some SMTP licenses so not an issue) call is made in HTML/TEXT format

- For SMS there is licensed application in India right now already ALL Banks are using this

 

ICICI is using GNU licensed for SMS and that has no legal hurdles.

 

Seriously there is very minimal programming in this whole thing and I implemented these many times in USA.

hmm good one,.. reality loki techeppudu inka better ideas vasthaayi,.. Domain level lo knowledge unna vallu aithe inka better ga untadi kaabatti demo iche chance vasthe chaalu we can make it,.. ee motham process lo elaanti data involve ayyi untado telisthe I can provide a data model to store and work with that 

[balayyatheking]

hmm good one,.. reality loki techeppudu inka better ideas vasthaayi,.. Domain level lo knowledge unna vallu aithe inka better ga untadi kaabatti demo iche chance vasthe chaalu we can make it,.. ee motham process lo elaanti data involve ayyi untado telisthe I can provide a data model to store and work with that 

data vachetappataki..

district,

mandal,

village,s

urvey number,

owner,

yentha land undi aa survey number lo,

adi yela vachindi owner ki...

 

ikkada problem entante aa adangal lo correct information undadu...so adangal lo unna owner ippudu real owner okkare undakapovachu...

[Compaq]

data vachetappataki..

district,

mandal,

village,s

urvey number,

owner,

yentha land undi aa survey number lo,

adi yela vachindi owner ki...

 

ikkada problem entante aa adangal lo correct information undadu...so adangal lo unna owner ippudu real owner okkare undakapovachu...

hmm, anduke Domain knowledge mention chesa,.. manam okka saari Dept lo evarini aina meet ayye chance vasthe asalu denni base ga consider chesukovaali ani oka idea vasthadi,.. daani chuttu work cheyyochu,.. 

[Compaq]

for POC sort of stuff we can use all open source stuff and demo it also,.. 

[AnnaGaru]

<<<<<<

data vachetappataki..

district,

mandal,

village,s

urvey number,

owner,

yentha land undi aa survey number lo,

adi yela vachindi owner ki...

 

ikkada problem entante aa adangal lo correct information undadu...so adangal lo unna owner ippudu real owner okkare undakapovachu...>>>>>>>

 

The above was already taken into consideration and the above is GOOD case for this ALERT.

 

If a property has different owner ADNGAL&EC that means there is conflict and these are the properties where this ALERT is useful.

 

Solution:- Let BOTH owners register their email&phone numbers in MEESEVA paying fees. So that if one tries to do SELL property then automatically other knows through ALERT and takes action.

[Compaq]

<<<<<<

data vachetappataki..

district,

mandal,

village,s

urvey number,

owner,

yentha land undi aa survey number lo,

adi yela vachindi owner ki...

 

ikkada problem entante aa adangal lo correct information undadu...so adangal lo unna owner ippudu real owner okkare undakapovachu...>>>>>>>

 

The above was already taken into consideration and the above is GOOD case for this ALERT.

 

If a property has different owner ADNGAL&EC that means there is conflict and these are the properties where this ALERT is useful.

 

Solution:- Let BOTH owners register their email&phone numbers in MEESEVA paying fees. So that if one tries to do SELL property then automatically other knows through ALERT and takes action.

deeni kanna affidavit ni add chesthu okallane owner ni cheyyatam better,.. 

[balayyatheking]

<<<<<<

data vachetappataki..

district,

mandal,

village,s

urvey number,

owner,

yentha land undi aa survey number lo,

adi yela vachindi owner ki...

 

ikkada problem entante aa adangal lo correct information undadu...so adangal lo unna owner ippudu real owner okkare undakapovachu...>>>>>>>

 

The above was already taken into consideration and the above is GOOD case for this ALERT.

 

If a property has different owner ADNGAL&EC that means there is conflict and these are the properties where this ALERT is useful.

 

Solution:- Let BOTH owners register their email&phone numbers in MEESEVA paying fees. So that if one tries to do SELL property then automatically other knows through ALERT and takes action.

 

[Compaq]

there cannot be multiple owners for any property,.. papers meeda unde chances unnappude kada frauds ki chances,.. ade asalu aa chances ni nullify chesthe there is no way they can manipulate,.. alaanti distributed information ni oka system loki teesukochi data integrate chesukonte cleansed data vasthadi,.. which we can use for further process. ee refining antha backend lo automate cheyyochu

[Compaq]

@ anyone ,.. mee daggara ee entire registration process ki sambandinchi hard copy papers emina unte we can plan discuss further on this... oka POC tho velthe existing Mee seva system ki integration ela anedi next steps (after knowing Mee Seva system) plan chesukovachu

[AnnaGaru]

<<<<there cannot be multiple owners for any property,.. papers meeda unde chances unnappude kada frauds ki chances,.. ade asalu aa chances ni nullify chesthe there is no way they can manipulate,.. alaanti distributed information ni oka system loki teesukochi data integrate chesukonte cleansed data vasthadi,.. which we can use for further process. ee refining antha backend lo automate cheyyochu>>>>>

 

Compaq, Small correction to above and "already" there are 25% of properties that has CONFLICTS with multiple owners.

 

We have TWO cases

 

1) already multiple owners:- Good example is in Nambur tollgate 90% of plots has more than one owner

 

Solution:- Let "ALL" owners register for alerts. Until the court case is resolved there is NO single owner.

 

2) New registration:- Single owner selling it

 

In this case there is only ONE owner email,phone no. So he is notified if some activity on his property.

 

Summary:- Let there be MULTIPLE owners(let then fight in court on ownership). But ALERT system sends ALERT to all of them.

[JAYAM_NANI]

COmpaq,

 

<<<<<owner ki alert pampatam ante, ee fraud batch database lo owner details maarchagalaru,.. aa details maarchataaniki kuda oka alert pettali like OTP, to make the system more robust.>>>

 

For the above we already thought of this. Since it is DATABASE level trigger ALERT is sent automatic even in above case.

The only person that can RIG the system is SYSTEM administrator.

 

<<<<<we can also add email print copy meeda owner attestation kuda registrar office lo submit cheyyali,.. in a way registrar can be irked if any issues, appudu false registrations chese vallu kuda bhayapadathaaru>>>>

 

I thought of above and I liked that way. But let's see what others think. Infact if we make that email print copy submission mandatory then that will close all loopholes now.

 

I am sending original PPT to you and feel free to modify it.

 

One of the way to handle this menace is registering the eye and finger scan of the owner. Currently, if aadhar is linked to this information, registar office should have facility for escanning similar to aadhar (both eye or finger or one of it). This information if it can speak with aadhar information for cross checking, it should help to curb the menace to a greater extent.

[AnnaGaru]

Compaq, I sent the PPT original and feel free to make changes..

 

To clear ALL, we are not fixing any MULTIPLE REGISTRATIONS already happened. These cases they fight in court.

For these cases we send ALERT to ALL owners until court cases is resolved and single owner is identified legally.

 

 

Our ALERT is stopping any further fraud selling's going forward.

[AnnaGaru]

Jayam_nani <<<<One of the way to handle this menace is registering the eye and finger scan of the owner>>>>

 

Already there is EYE/FINGER scan but still REgistrar at local offices are doing all frauds.

 

Ex:- In Kantheru last year after capital announcement local register allowed selling an NRI property with local leaders bribing

 

That NRI came to know after an YEAR and he is going round court now.

 

 

Solution:-  Let Owner know through ALERT that there is something coming on your property in next couple of days

[Compaq]

One of the way to handle this menace is registering the eye and finger scan of the owner. Currently, if aadhar is linked to this information, registar office should have facility for escanning similar to aadhar (both eye or finger or one of it). This information if it can speak with aadhar information for cross checking, it should help to curb the menace to a greater extent.

good point,.. kani Supreme Court recent ga Aadhar meeda comment chesindi,.. dont make it mandatory for everything ani,.. because sanity of data is not verified. but ilaantidi cheyyagaligithe baavuntadi

[Compaq]

Jayam_nani <<<<One of the way to handle this menace is registering the eye and finger scan of the owner>>>>

 

Already there is EYE/FINGER scan but still REgistrar at local offices are doing all frauds.

 

Ex:- In Kantheru last year after capital announcement local register allowed selling an NRI property with local leaders bribing

 

That NRI came to know after an YEAR and he is going round court now.

 

 

Solution:-  Let Owner know through ALERT that there is something coming on your property in next couple of days

also dont let the process if the owner did not click agree link that is provided securely to his email, endukante ee edavalu chesi pada dobbi taruvaatha issues choosukundaam le anukuntaaru,.. asalu cheyyataaniki chance ye lekunda aithe inka better kada

[JAYAM_NANI]

private owners aithe ok. Devadaya bumulu etc different types of lands unnayi kadaa. So responsible persons change in govt. so, evariki alert vellali alanti time lo. these things will also be important to understand.

 

first different types of land to be classified, identify the owners of such lands will help. I guess there might be a lot of activity already done by AnnaGaru on this subject. So his knowledge will be very useful. It is important that such a database talks to government systems. So, it is quite useful if a govt expert both on registrations and also on IT are part of such project.

[JAYAM_NANI]

Jayam_nani <<<<One of the way to handle this menace is registering the eye and finger scan of the owner>>>>

 

Already there is EYE/FINGER scan but still REgistrar at local offices are doing all frauds.

 

Ex:- In Kantheru last year after capital announcement local register allowed selling an NRI property with local leaders bribing

 

That NRI came to know after an YEAR and he is going round court now.

 

 

Solution:-  Let Owner know through ALERT that there is something coming on your property in next couple of days

 

This information is very useful to know bro. Then, if eyescanner/finger scanner was not used in the registration, then such information should be alerted by sofware immediately to the higher official above such local register apart from sending relevant alerts to all the stake holders.

[JAYAM_NANI]

good point,.. kani Supreme Court recent ga Aadhar meeda comment chesindi,.. dont make it mandatory for everything ani,.. because sanity of data is not verified. but ilaantidi cheyyagaligithe baavuntadi

 

i think in registrations, it can be mandatory as one will any way given their hand prints to registration office. Supreme courts comments are with respect to benefits. In our software, this is a sort of fraud checking. it may be also good to have a person with legal knowledge in the development.

[rama123]

Jayam_nani <<<<One of the way to handle this menace is registering the eye and finger scan of the owner>>>>

 

Already there is EYE/FINGER scan but still REgistrar at local offices are doing all frauds.

 

Ex:- In Kantheru last year after capital announcement local register allowed selling an NRI property with local leaders bribing

 

That NRI came to know after an YEAR and he is going round court now.

 

 

Solution:-  Let Owner know through ALERT that there is something coming on your property in next couple of days

What are the pre conditions for registration..not sure registrar should verify whom that land belongs to...If registrar wanted to register system should not allow.

[JAYAM_NANI]

What are the pre conditions for registration..not sure registrar should verify whom that land belongs to...If registrar wanted to register system should not allow.

 

in the absence of eye/finger/both scan, if registar still does go ahead, then there should be more approvals from the relevant Modies. but anyway such changes to be done on legislation, which is beyond the scope of our discussion.

[rama123]

NFDB peru meeda incubation centre lo place teesukunte mana graduates ki paniki vastadi plus ilantivi ku da try cheyyochu

[Manoj_Jashti]

N Chandrababu Naidu ‏@ncbn  58m58 minutes ago

If you are an NRI who hails from AP, you can contribute to create a Digital Andhra Pradesh through this website: http://codeforap.org 

[KaNTRhi]

NRIs Code for AP to support State through tech solutions

Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Sri N. Chandrababu Naidu launched the CodeforAP program in Vijayawada today.

Speaking at the event, the Chief Minister said that CodeforAP is supporting Andhra Pradesh. “During Pushkaralu, our government has worked on getting crowd feedback through IVRS system. That worked well. We now want Code for AP to work on applications that will not only support the government but also come up with innovative ideas for delivering citizen services.”

CodeforAP (http://codeforap.org/) is a non-profit organization in the US that is supporting Andhra Pradesh in various technology applications in e-governance, economic and social development, delivering citizen services, health and social services, rural education and agriculture.

Set up on July 4th 2015, the organisation has 100 volunteers working with 30 government departments by offering them through technology-based solutions to streamline work. Some of the projects in pipeline are:

1. “Dial an Expert”, a concept where we bridge the gap between government officials and citizens, 
2. “Open Directory” a project to keep track of all the government personnel with their contact details.

The Volunteers who run the organisation from the United States with local support say that this is their way of contributing to Andhra Pradesh and help the state grow into a digitally-empowered and a knowledge-based economy.

[KaNTRhi]

Codeforap.org matram chala baga design chesaru evaro kani

[AnnaGaru]

Thank you ALL for your suggestions and good cross checking.

 

I am submitting the project to codeforap.org and really impressed with their effort.

It's an excellent platform for us to share our ideas.

 

Thanks again...

[KaNTRhi]

Thank you ALL for your suggestions and good cross checking.

 

I am submitting the project to codeforap.org and really impressed with their effort.

It's an excellent platform for us to share our ideas.

 

Thanks again...

 

Miru andulo enroll avvandi Anna garu.. share your idea with AP CMO

[akhil ch]

Thank you ALL for your suggestions and good cross checking.

 

I am submitting the project to codeforap.org and really impressed with their effort.

It's an excellent platform for us to share our ideas.

 

Thanks again...

All the best annay...eddam anukuna idhe thread

[sonykongara]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/usbased-techies-offer-help-to-ap-in-egovernance/article7535064.ece