Sunny@CBN Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 CBN kakunda vere person aite unna votes kuda ravu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godavari Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Sunny@CBN said: Conclusion decide ayyi meeru reason form chesinatu undi. Facts based conclusion undali. Please share any surveys to establish such facts. In BC families i know, educated youth are voting to TDP while older generation is towards YCP. Most of the educated youth understand the difference between TDP and YCP government. Young voters may have been disappointed because of the lack of job opportunities and may have been disappointed because it was the poll promise of TDP in 2014. If jagan cant provide jobs, same thing will happen in 2024. Eastgodavari okapaudu Bcs TDP ni own chesukuni vesevaru votes ippudu Jagan vypu poyaru survey lu levu na dhagara ..But adi matramu kachitamga chepagalanu because of colleagues in Job and school college mates and Land kovulu chese families 2014 or 2019 nunchi kadu 2009 nunche start ayyndi Bc voting shift .. 2019 inka ekkuva ayyndi Bhajan cheuskuntaa pothe manaku emi ostadi .. 18 to 30 group aythe TDP 3 rd place ki kuda potadi future lo serious steps lekapothe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godavari Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sunny@CBN said: CBN kakunda vere person aite unna votes kuda ravu. Cbn undakudadu anadamledu Ayane Cm avvali ayana tarvata nayukudu ippude kanapadali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny@CBN Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 @Godavari Bhajana cheste em radu kani asalu confidence lekapote enduku. Jagan ki manchi base undi but okka chance anedi main. 1984 lo peedda majority vachina NTR 1989 lo odipouaru. You cant generalize. Youth ki kavalsindi jobs. Jobs ivakapote pakka against ga vestaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godavari Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sunny@CBN said: @Godavari Bhajana cheste em radu kani asalu confidence lekapote enduku. Jagan ki manchi base undi but okka chance anedi main. 1984 lo peedda majority vachina NTR 1989 lo odipouaru. You cant generalize. Youth ki kavalsindi jobs. Jobs ivakapote pakka against ga vestaru 1989 Ranga effect lekapothe SR Ntr appude win ayye Varu.. and 1989 is Sr Ntr third time intha worst defeat kadhu ap varaku around 50 ayana ochi untayi apudu .cbn ki alanti effect emiledu please don't compare sr Ntr with Cbn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny@CBN Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1989 lo Sr NTR odinatte 2024 lo Jagan odipitadu ani nenu antundi. Mass leaders meeda expectation ekuva untadi. Adi reach avakapote disappountment kuda ade range lo untadi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny@CBN Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Ipdu state una financial situation ki freebie batch expectation reach avatam kastam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godavari Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sunny@CBN said: 1989 lo Sr NTR odinatte 2024 lo Jagan odipitadu ani nenu antundi. Mass leaders meeda expectation ekuva untadi. Adi reach avakapote disappountment kuda ade range lo untadi. Odipovatam veru 23/175 ravadam veru anni panulu chesi antha kastapadi vodipovatam ante only okka chance effect okatee aythe kadhu ala anukunte malli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rama123 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 NTR odipoyuna eppudu political space vunnattu anipinchedi kadu...sirio ni party nivvakunda cheste intha worst ayyedi kadu...cbn annee late decisions teesukuntaru. 2019 main pk nashtam chesadu....taruvatha annee ...before elections ki velte prob vundedi kadu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rama123 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Muslim reservations, fees reimbursement baga use ayyayi ycp ki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny@CBN Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 @Godavari Vote percentage TDP loose ayindi 5% bro. Seats chudakandi. 2014 lo marginal ga gelicham with the help of Janasena and BJP. Pk and BJP iddaru anti avatam chala effect padindi. One chance and sympathy kuda main reason. 2024 lo avi emi undav. Jagan mathu vadultundi janalaki. Equations different ga untai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP_Abhimani Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Godavari said: Odipovatam veru 23/175 ravadam veru anni panulu chesi antha kastapadi vodipovatam ante only okka chance effect okatee aythe kadhu ala anukunte malli Brother...ysr ke 36% percent vachi 156 vachaay...manaki 40% vachina 23 seats...mana karma...janasena bokka peettindi like 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP_Abhimani Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Godavari said: Eastgodavari okapaudu Bcs TDP ni own chesukuni vesevaru votes ippudu Jagan vypu poyaru survey lu levu na dhagara ..But adi matramu kachitamga chepagalanu because of colleagues in Job and school college mates and Land kovulu chese families 2014 or 2019 nunchi kadu 2009 nunche start ayyndi Bc voting shift .. 2019 inka ekkuva ayyndi Bhajan cheuskuntaa pothe manaku emi ostadi .. 18 to 30 group aythe TDP 3 rd place ki kuda potadi future lo serious steps lekapothe Brother I am also from Godavari district...YCP antha bomma leedu east and west lo...Naa Reddy friend who is in ycp ee anaadu...local leaders meeda anti-incumbency,Janasena,Onechance valla Godavari districts lo TDP badshow!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madras Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Oka Book lo chadiva...I found it true to reality... 1st we have to understand why BCs aligned with TDP in the starting stage itself.... We can't give a blank statement like seats icham... Importance icham ani... Chiranjeevi kuda ichadu...But it didn't work out.... During 1980s with Garibi Hatao and various Poverty alleviation scheme's and reservations Almost all Welfare schemes are directed towards SCs and STs ...And that too openly with much fanfare.... But appatiki economical ga BCs ki SCs ki pedda teda vundedhi kaadhu.... Both are equally poor... But govt scheme's anni open ga SCs ki for ga vundevi... They have this anger against Congress govt....When we both are poor...Why only the other person is getting benefits and not me ani BCs ki kopam...... Adhe reason thone till date SCs keep on voting to Congress and it's offshoot in AP.... Alanti time lo alternate ga NTR political party pettatam.... Political ga avakasalu ivvadam tho...BCs hugely voted to party and with further welfare scheme's ...They became core vote bank... But oka generation tarvata political parties should be in relevance....Next generation BCs valla father, grand father endhuku vote lu vesaro appatlo teleedhu.... Valla votes kuda TDP ke padali ante...We should continuously back them with their issues... Most of the economical issue's...BCs reservation, taravata BCs kosam separate ga pettina welfare scheme's tho economical ga baaga ibbandulu levu... Further ga chaduvukovali....Political ga edagali laanti ambitions vuntayi... CBN vachaka welfare ni pattinchukoledu... And further YSR gave engineering fee reimbursement.... Normal ga engineering chadavam costly affair for BCs ...With this fee reimbursement..They were elated like anything......With CBN no welfare(innovatively which would make BCs specifically happier) and YSR fee reimbursment... Core vote bank lo BCs lo past thing...They are not anymore Vote bank to TDP...Except for pockets where strong TDP BC leader's are there.... Ee 40% vote share anedhi humbuck... State lo rende main political parties vunnayi annappudu... It is so normal getting 40% vote share... Daaniki aa 40% TDP vote bank anukovataniki kudaradu.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madras Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Eppudu kuda oka issue ni teesukuni... daaniki related castes/groups support techukotame politics.... TDP is not doing anything of that sort from past 20 year's.... Rayalaseema lo reddys ni party loki teesukotame...biggest blunder of TDP.... literally today there is no opposition for YSRCP in Rayalaseema.... Continuous ga Balija, BCs ni support cheyyali...But TDP failed in that.... With BJP at helm...Next burning issue is going to be Hindutva in AP too.... Next gen OC (non reddy), Kapu, BC voter's are going to align with hindutva... TDP daaniki adapt avvagaligithe survive avuthundhi...Ledha 10 years tarvata BJP +Partner is going to replace it.... Even without BJP.... Hindutva is the best and only available option for TDP going forward to get the some core vote bank .... Ledhu ippudu vunnatte vuntaam ante.... jagan chesthunna targeting ki 2024 lo Kammas ayina votes vestharu.... 2029 ki vallu kuda veyyaru... because Kammas are most dynamic when it comes to politics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madras Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Ippudu political ga evarikaina TDP tho align avvataniki reason okkati kuda ledhu... except for kammas .... Political ga upper hand vuntundi ane okka reason thappa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madras Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 This adopting Hindutva should also start from some new leader...But definitely not from CBN.... Should be active in the party with hindutva agenda.... Elections ki mundu he should be CM candidate.... CBN ni chusi vote lu vese rojulu gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP_Abhimani Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Madras said: Oka Book lo chadiva...I found it true to reality... 1st we have to understand why BCs aligned with TDP in the starting stage itself.... We can't give a blank statement like seats icham... Importance icham ani... Chiranjeevi kuda ichadu...But it didn't work out.... During 1980s with Garibi Hatao and various Poverty alleviation scheme's and reservations Almost all Welfare schemes are directed towards SCs and STs ...And that too openly with much fanfare.... But appatiki economical ga BCs ki SCs ki pedda teda vundedhi kaadhu.... Both are equally poor... But govt scheme's anni open ga SCs ki for ga vundevi... They have this anger against Congress govt....When we both are poor...Why only the other person is getting benefits and not me ani BCs ki kopam...... Adhe reason thone till date SCs keep on voting to Congress and it's offshoot in AP.... Alanti time lo alternate ga NTR political party pettatam.... Political ga avakasalu ivvadam tho...BCs hugely voted to party and with further welfare scheme's ...They became core vote bank... But oka generation tarvata political parties should be in relevance....Next generation BCs valla father, grand father endhuku vote lu vesaro appatlo teleedhu.... Valla votes kuda TDP ke padali ante...We should continuously back them with their issues... Most of the economical issue's...BCs reservation, taravata BCs kosam separate ga pettina welfare scheme's tho economical ga baaga ibbandulu levu... Further ga chaduvukovali....Political ga edagali laanti ambitions vuntayi... CBN vachaka welfare ni pattinchukoledu... And further YSR gave engineering fee reimbursement.... Normal ga engineering chadavam costly affair for BCs ...With this fee reimbursement..They were elated like anything......With CBN no welfare(innovatively which would make BCs specifically happier) and YSR fee reimbursment... Core vote bank lo BCs lo past thing...They are not anymore Vote bank to TDP...Except for pockets where strong TDP BC leader's are there.... Ee 40% vote share anedhi humbuck... State lo rende main political parties vunnayi annappudu... It is so normal getting 40% vote share... Daaniki aa 40% TDP vote bank anukovataniki kudaradu.... How can a party get random 40% vote percent.....Welfare schemes anevi prathi govt chestundi...degree maarutunde...TDP has core votebank..actually it increased compared to 2004 because of welfare....wat we failed in setting right expectations....Taking Hindutva stand is disastrous....No one cares in Andhra....and it can’t be long term issue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumbk Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 To be honest, most of the Kamma youth are out of the state. The ones left in AP are either old or the few who didn't study well. So banking on Kammas is not going to be viable for TDP in the future. TDP need to be owned by some other sections. TDP could try to apply the social engineering tactics of BJP in AP SC's to dent the YCP lead in SCs. Giving majority of the representation to BCs would help it to meet the aspirations of new gen people left in AP. CBN should stop trying to appease every section of the populace and instead should focus on establishing a core-vote bank by focusing on social-engineering. His development agenda won't make anyone a hardcore fan, but rather a transactional fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nfdbno1 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Kumbk said: To be honest, most of the Kamma youth are out of the state. The ones left in AP are either old or the few who didn't study well. So banking on Kammas is not going to be viable for TDP in the future. TDP need to be owned by some other sections. TDP could try to apply the social engineering tactics of BJP in AP SC's to dent the YCP lead in SCs. Giving majority of the representation to BCs would help it to meet the aspirations of new gen people left in AP. CBN should stop trying to appease every section of the populace and instead should focus on establishing a core-vote bank by focusing on social-engineering. His development agenda won't make anyone a hardcore fan, but rather a transactional fan. anduke na... 2014 lo gelichinappudu, opposition decentralized development antundi ani... janalaki job ekkada vasthe akkadiki vellali ani neethi bodhalu chesadu! job ekada vasthe akkadiki already kammollu vellipoyaru, from vja, guntur, eluru... etc to hyd, us, australia, canada.. ika migilina chidathalu vayinchukovachu ane na! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adithya369 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 6:40 AM, Madras said: This adopting Hindutva should also start from some new leader...But definitely not from CBN.... Should be active in the party with hindutva agenda.... Elections ki mundu he should be CM candidate.... CBN ni chusi vote lu vese rojulu gone... Adopting Hinduthva..... Will be a blunder. 1999 lo aa bjp tho alliance valla tdp ki huge loss, YS met every Muslim leader in all constituencies in 2004 and campaigned with anti bjp slogan, it worked well for him and continuing now also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepakntr Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 we should somehow bring some sections of SCs onto our side ... SCs are major vote bank for YCP .. if we can split in that vote bank then it is a minus for YCP and plus for TDP .. but how to do it ? I have no idea .. especially Hindu SCs ni mana vipu thippukovali .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 8:14 PM, Kumbk said: To be honest, most of the Kamma youth are out of the state. The ones left in AP are either old or the few who didn't study well. So banking on Kammas is not going to be viable for TDP in the future. TDP need to be owned by some other sections. TDP could try to apply the social engineering tactics of BJP in AP SC's to dent the YCP lead in SCs. Giving majority of the representation to BCs would help it to meet the aspirations of new gen people left in AP. CBN should stop trying to appease every section of the populace and instead should focus on establishing a core-vote bank by focusing on social-engineering. His development agenda won't make anyone a hardcore fan, but rather a transactional fan. 1% kamma votes em sedam ani uncle .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumbk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Anne said: 1% kamma votes em sedam ani uncle .. I am not talking about the votes, but the financial backing and leadership. I am suspecting they are not guaranteed after 5-10 years. Most of the Kammas with the drive and energy are not living within in the state, but out of the state. Most of them are not even feeling affinity towards Andhra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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