akhill Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Hindi matladithey ne nationalism ah? Then, make Telugu mandatory across India and I will support you kikiki how well is telugu known across the country when compared to Hindi ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 nationalism and hinduism BJP ki copy right mari... (dis: quick glance of few posts here...) Nalluru bro's intent has merit there... Please get out of this rudimentary understanding bros........Define nationalism in proper way even for those organizations, do not tow the line of those entities as veda.....Push & lead those organizations to the correct principles where ever necessary by being intellectually independent, in the end it helps them immensely that way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Samskrit was not popular language even at its heights in the Indian history.......It was renowned as being 'dEsa bhaasha' by appealing to the intellectual class, not many had qualms about that stature since it was widely accepted that way by literate and illeterate crowds too...... What ever the debate here, hindi is not substitute for samskrit in view of language credentials.....It is just one of the derivatives from the root language..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravidict Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 how well is telugu known across the country when compared to Hindi ?How well is Hindi known across the country when compared to English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhill Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 How well is Hindi known across the country when compared to English? and why do u need a foreign language when you can own your own language ?? Sanskrit is the mother of all languages.. Hindi is its prima facie dialect. if you compare english and hindi, i leave it to ur discretion. A common tongue for our country is much more than a medium to talk... learning Hindi/sanskrit thereby will also proactively push our generations towards pursuing the knowledge related to our culture, country, which were written in either sanskrit or bunch of local languages(which we will obviously learn). Tell me you can do that with english.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 There is some merit to the argument that in some quarters of UP and Bihar there is hegemonical language bias in the population... Will give an interesting historical fact regarding language here...... One example....when Pakistan was formed, the territories of that country did not have major Urdu speaking population segments.....More than half used to speak Bangla and rest of the major languages spoken were Sindhi, Gujarati, Punjabi, Pashtun etc.....Urdu was very small minority.... Those who migrated from UP and Bihar(and our Hyd crowd - the mohajirs) to new Pakistan pressed Urdu on that country and (wrongly) tied it to Islam and made it national language at the expense of those local languages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Most of the misinformed Pakistanis even now think that Urdu is some how tied to their religion in piety......It is not, it was pressed on them by the UP, Bihar and Hyd Indian muslims since they speak that language ..... A sindhi or punjabi pakistani feel guilty now to talk in their mother tongues, fear of getting labeled as uneducated villager....unpad gaavwaala.......Urdu speaking coined as more sophisticated even in Pakistan ......mana Lucknow , hyd janabha hawaa...huh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compaq Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 abba,.. super unnayi le logics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 balavanthaana yE pani cheyyakuudadhu........Freedom is the backbone of Indian democratic way....... Indian value system( ex. maatru dEvObhava, annam parabrahma swaruupam, vidhya dhadhaati vinayam etc etc..) should be the ideal binding force for people in the country.......Where ever they live and what ever they speak, the values should be the undercurrent.......Not necessarily in sounds but deep internally in character..... binnatvam lo yEkatvam... One grand mosaic with lot of sounds and shapes individually, still having a common set of values if one looks broadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rear Window Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 balavamtam gaa ruddatam enti evadistam valladi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compaq Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 balavamtam gaa ruddatam enti evadistam valladi aithe nuvvu anti nationalist,.. doubts emina unte pina posts refer cheyyi,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Now the valid Q is ....Do the above organizations striving for the essence like in the above mentioned verbiage/or similar ways or getting lost in just sounds & slogans without properly understanding & applying the great Indian 'Values' - our heritage.... Without sticking rhetorically to the words coined by the entities of political/social domains, feel free bros to do independent investigation....If you think sincerely that somebody is erring callout and show the way.......You be the way bros... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravidict Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 and why do u need a foreign language when you can own your own language ?? Sanskrit is the mother of all languages.. Hindi is its prima facie dialect. if you compare english and hindi, i leave it to ur discretion. A common tongue for our country is much more than a medium to talk... learning Hindi/sanskrit thereby will also proactively push our generations towards pursuing the knowledge related to our culture, country, which were written in either sanskrit or bunch of local languages(which we will obviously learn). Tell me you can do that with english.??If English is a foreign language, so is Hindi to me. If something written in Sanskrit can be translated to Hindi/Telugu, why can it not be done to English?How many of those from Hindi-speaking states follow our tradition and how many from non-Hindi speaking states follow our tradition. I believe the percentage from South would be greater than that from North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rear Window Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If English is a foreign language, so is Hindi to me. If something written in Sanskrit can be translated to Hindi/Telugu, why can it not be done to English? How many of those from Hindi-speaking states follow our tradition and how many from non-Hindi speaking states follow our tradition. I believe the percentage from South would be greater than that from North. perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compaq Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Only Telugu is my language, rest all are foreign languages in my perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compaq Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ee thread lo kotha logic vasthadi koddi sepatilo,.. there is no north or south, it is just India ani. equal ga treat chesthe differences raavu, so is Telangana issue. it is because of Politicians all these nonsense evolve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravidict Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Sanskrit lo bhoothulu matlade vadu vuntadu, English lo poojinche vadu vuntadu. Language tho ne culture vacchesthundhi antey Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 English ni national language chesthe uses ekkuva....But entirely foreign language ni national language ante janala manobhavalu debba thintay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Sanskrit lo bhoothulu matlade vadu vuntadu, English lo poojinche vadu vuntadu. Language tho ne culture vacchesthundhi antey Amen Nee username saardakam ayindi ee thread valla.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krantionline29 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Language is soemthing that gives a common identity to a nation.. naadhi telugu.. vaadidhi tamil.. veedihi malayalam.. ee lekkala vallane manam ila gudisipoyam... mana national language should be ideally sanskrit.. kaani ippudu sanskrit ante boothu ane range lo project chestunnaru congress vallu.. janalaki kuda adhe alavatu chesaru.. hindi is more or less nearer to Sanskrit language and it should be accorded national status and made mandatory. the sooner, the better. Very dangerous ideology..wil be the beginning of death of languages like telugu tamil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Sanskrit lo bhoothulu matlade vadu vuntadu, English lo poojinche vadu vuntadu. Language tho ne culture vacchesthundhi antey Amen (generic...) In general sense Dradict bro point lo kontha nijam vundhi.......samskrutham lo saapanaarthaalu pettachu.....One can aspire to be noble and pious while speaking English.....If you compare two languages (for illustration) on peripheral like that without going in to details & essence appear not with many holes....But... okka pradhaanamaina samasya vasthadhi Samskrutham tho aa vaadhana lo...... ' Language tho ne culture vacchesthundhi antey Amen' .... Language lo ne culture vunte? just think(idhi rhetorical gaa use chEsthunnadhi kaadhu)......mana bhaarathiya samskruthi antha nikshiptham ayi vundhi samskrutham lo ne... (just for illustration) ....Manchester, UK oka judeo/christian value system lo puttina manishi 'Amen' ante sahajam gaa vuntadhi......manam ante kruthakam gaa vuntadhi.....ofcourse manam chadhive/maatlade prathi gossip, news, cultural items, politics english lo ne vunte aa expression atlaa vasthadhi, mana nativity pOthundhi......'aaha hathavidhi' anunte yE telugu, hindi, malayalam, gujarati, bangla lo naina artham avuthundhi/ hatthukupOthundhi..... oka hindi tho ayithe kontha varaku sulabham gaa vundedhi paina bro point.....because it is one of the derivative languages... samskrit ni english ni pOlchakuudadhu(forget popularity, business aspect from current day dimension) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 English ni national language chesthe uses ekkuva....But entirely foreign language ni national language ante janala manobhavalu debba thintay... prathi dhaanni current stock value/ business value/material value lo chuudakuudadhu Avinash bro..... mana root culture balam gaa lOpala vunte alaa ane vaaru kaadhu.... mana muula samskruthi lo kEvalam vasthu kEndhrikrutha drukpatham yE kaadhu, chaala dhaarsanikatha vundhi, bahuvidhaalu vuntaayi.....english vaadakam(language kaadhu cultural values lo) tho mana tharaallo aa drukpatham pOyindhi chaala varaku.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 kEvalam hindi yekkuva dhaggiraga vundhi ane vaadhana lo antha nijam lEdhu......purely on language credentials..... example ki....samskrutham lo sahitya prakriyalu atyantha klistam ayinavi vunnaayi......prapancham lo yekkada kanipinchadhu avadhaanam.... bhaarathiya bhaashallo okka Telugu lo aa prakriya vunnadhi, kodhi ara kannada lo.... telugu lipi veru ayina ....vyaakaraNam lo yekkadaithe kotha nirvachanam cheppalEdho alaanti anni chOtla Panini samskrutha astaadhyaayi suutralane yathaa thadham gaa vaadachu.... yE ibbandhi vundadhu...sastraparam gaa thappu kaadu ani mana vyaakaraNa karthalu(nannaya etc) cheppaaru.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 yeppudaithe Political angle/ political parties ani equation lo ki vasthe objectivity pOthundhi..... raajakiyam gaa cashing angle vasthadhi.....Not a good practice..... avakaasam vunna prathi chOta ayinantha varaku...big issues lo... Political parties credit/criticism angle marchipOvaali.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Web lo gandhi gaarini unfair gaa congress vaaLLu vaadhukonnaaru ani konni sites lo, news lo vEsthaaru.....same tone tho India ki sambandhinchina anni vyavahaaraalu BJP ki political angle lo bump up chese vidham gaa heavy advertising chuusthaam.... consistent gaa vundaali.......kobragade case lo US unfair treatment ante dEsa janabha Congress govt kadha ....eppudu unpopular ani aa cause lo merit chuudaraa? Irrespective of political parties country ki sambandhinchina vishayaalu chaala varaku country param gaa chuudaali..... country kante mundhu own advertisement yekkuva ante......skepticism inka perigipOthadhi.... In the end manchi panulu.. dEsam prathista peruguthe... electoral gaa governing kaabatti definite gaa credit vasthadhi.......kaani deliberate gaa, blatant gaa marketing chesukuntunte Political angle lo manchi dhi kaadhu yevaru chEsina....yathaartham yentha ane prasna vasthadhi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Point is political angle vasthe vishayaala lo depth pOthundhi..especially historical events, personalities, big issues....two dimensional caricatures laaga personalities/parties kanipisthaayi - raajakiyam gaa swardhaparam gaa chuupisthe charitra ni......Low information voter dhaggira avi nadusthaa vuntaayi, chalamaNi avvachu........ informed citizens vunna chOta avi crude gaa kanipinchavachu.....baaga informed readers vunna chOta issue lo drama/skew heavy gaa avasaram lEdhu, factual gaa velthunte oka sahaja sidhamaina andham vuntadhi....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 My way or high way attitude is not good for the integrity of India.......Just start noticing how Pakistan is disintegrating on the border....They thought they could coalesce around religion and hatred against India(means hindus in their view).......With iron will they are ruling with a touch of punjabi(not language) culture.......Heavy haughtiness.... They forgot about the dissimilarities in various provinces and not recognizing that natural diversity.....Hence lot of turmoil going on in various parts.....So far got cut in to two pieces....Soon you will see, it will wither in to even more small pieces.... India has been wise & mature enough to respect the various cultural flavors in its territories, hence getting stronger......Unity in diversity....Going back in History.....In partition time, the rallying cry for the Islamic state and overt hate against India - in Urdu it used to come this way ...... bano bano pakistan baanto baanto hindustan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oke sari inni posts ante chadavatam kashtam vasu garu...Telugu/English edaina dictionary chudali asale mee posts ardam kavalante... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYAM_NANI Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 emanna kothaga cheputhaaremo ani vachcha Nani uncle.....Bombai llo unta Hindi ni meeru vismarinchaleru...US llo unta Englees ni nenu vidavalenu....ala ani naa maatru bhasha ni maruvaledhu..... I didn't find any flaw with the ideology of the Sangh Parivar, as far as you mentioned here..Rather it reflects the very ethos of our country...Hindi is our National Language..Respect it.....Telugu is our Mother Tongue - Protect it...We need not be in conflict with each other, rather we can co-exist with each other...This is what the concept of Unity in Diversity is all about...and this is the ideology reflected by Sangh Parivar... We cannot compare India with any other country, we have very well mastered the art of dealing with diversities and integrating them, while the west has remained fragmented..we in India still live as one living organic entity. This is what we need to nurture and celebrate.. There is nothing new issues to worry about. It is not Hindi on what i am crying at but it is the lack of respect to Telugu what i am crying for. By the way Sir, please go through the post, Hindi is not the only national language and not the only lantguage to be shown respect at. It is because of this ideology, most of the Indians are disillusioned about Sangh Parivar. Unity in diversity doesn't come by only respecting Hindi. If you think we are not fragmented, then why did the struggle for Telangana happened and what are you going to say on the outpour in Tamilnadu on the encounter of sandalwood smugglers? Let us don't escape from reality in the midst of praising the great culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr Fan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oke sari inni posts ante chadavatam kashtam vasu garu...Telugu/English edaina dictionary chudali asale mee posts ardam kavalante... Transliteration lo lipi vEru kaabatti gaadi gaa kanapadi vundachu Avinash bro, vishayam pedhadhi yEmi lEdhu aa post lo.... Thinking patterns also get more creative, simple and original from the usage of native language(cultural point of view) especially mother tongue...Using english at the expense of native tongues will blunt some extent that cerebrating & natural flow plus losing cultural treasure trove ..... inka vEre posts ithivrutham adhe sthuulam gaa.. adhi pedha chettu ayithe okkokka post lo vEru vEru kommalni thaakinatlu.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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