yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Subjects have to be taught in an applied manner.. but they are taught like a question bank.. Peruki practicals unna adhi year ending lo modaledataru exams kosame... ilanti saduvulaki alavaatu ayyi IIT lo vasthe yendhi.. NIT lo vasthe yendhi.. malli bayatiki vachi tokkala software job ey ga chesedhi... Serious thinking sesi research mode loke ga velledhi yenthamandhi.. Brains nurture cheyyalsina age lo mugging up alavaatu chesi learning principles ey marchesaru... research anedi 100 lo padi mandi matrame cheyyalii.........100 ki 100 cheste inka aa results ni implement chesedi evaduu????? and YES lot more than 10 % from IIT nd NIT go to research might not be soon after colg( they hav their own family constrains) but YES atleast after few years they r going to research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 valid question avi......The best way to judge a talent is to give them a practical problem and ask them to solve it....That will be a test of their understanding the subject and their ability to apply it in real-life situation.... (This is not my idea....this was how our Indigenous Educational system was...No exams...no mugging....only understanding and the final test for qualifying a student is to give them a practical problem...not like the problems we were given in our examinations...but a practical real life problem concerning the field in which they were taught) these practical xams may be possible in graduation stage but oka 18 years pillodiki prati danilo basic knowledge undali like maths phy chem.........vetilo praticals chesi nerchukoni apply chesi prove chesukoni judge cheyyali ante punakalam gadichipotundiii inter xams r to LEARN basic ........graduation is to learn application and post grad is to apply tem in reality...........inter lone apply chese stage ki tecceyali anatam practically not possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i know the impact these corp colgs created among students of IIT,NIT,BITS,IIM JIMPER or ne reputed xam in country ma rojuloo .. rankers batch etc etc ani undedi bamamrdi, mari manam avg studentsuu a physics lo english asalaki ardam ayedi kadhu , manalanti ippa sara batchini purugula kante hinamga susevalu , sivarakariki ardam ayindi entantee, a batch infy lo kodithe nenu infy lo kotta job 4 yrs ayyakaa same time loo , may be sal diff avochu 2 lakhs max diff , kaani end destination almost same , only reason .. no practical knowledge , confusion in choosing paths ... end same destination forcibly .. adi matter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 aa basic nerchukokunda ........idantha sodhi nenu elanu life lo apply cheyyanu.........nenu naaku kavalsina/nacchina feild lone practical applicality chusukuntanu ante its not possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 poni meeru oka system cheppandi annai........on what basis u can judge a 18-20 year old kid???oka practical possible solution cheppandii naa suggestion on this was already mentioned in the previous posts....that is the closest we can get to practical....measure a person qualitatively as well as quantitatively.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 ma rojuloo .. rankers batch etc etc ani undedi bamamrdi, mari manam avg studentsuu a physics lo english asalaki ardam ayedi kadhu , manalanti ippa sara batchini purugula kante hinamga susevalu , sivarakariki ardam ayindi entantee, a batch infy lo kodithe nenu infy lo kotta job 4 yrs ayyakaa same time loo , may be sal diff avochu 2 lakhs max diff , kaani end destination almost same , only reason .. no practical knowledge , confusion in choosing paths ... end same destination forcibly .. adi matter ! cheppanu baa clearing an xam is nthg in life .........thr vil be lakhs of people who perform better in life tan those who cleared the xam.......but nthg to judge nebody ..........18,20 years time lo basics lo vaadiki baaga telusu so seat vacchindi antheee bayata realestate lo emi saduvu rani vaadu enno crores sampayistadu.........u cant judge him on his salary ........or u cant degrade urself by comparing wid him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 ma bammardi gadiki sinna vayasulonee enthja knowledgeooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chsrk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 these practical xams may be possible in graduation stage but oka 18 years pillodiki prati danilo basic knowledge undali like maths phy chem.........vetilo praticals chesi nerchukoni apply chesi prove chesukoni judge cheyyali ante punakalam gadichipotundiii inter xams r to LEARN basic ........graduation is to learn application and post grad is to apply tem in reality...........inter lone apply chese stage ki tecceyali anatam practically not possible 18 years ki fillalu kooda futtittaadu saami...practical problems solve seyyaleru ante...basic education curriculum design lo ne fault annattu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilaDi No.1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 poni meeru oka system cheppandi annai........on what basis u can judge a 18-20 year old kid??? oka practical possible solution cheppandii Judging is the second aspect... i am not talking about judging.. i am talking about the way those kids are taught... Teach them in an applied manner.. dont start trigonometry with sin, cos and tan... dont start calculus with differentiation and integration formulas.. start with explaining how and where they get applied and their uses in real time... then get into the situation giving real problems.. and solutions to the real problems.. teach physics and chemistry practically.. attach each session to a practical class.. dont teach practicals at the end of the year for marks sake... inka language gurinchi cheppavasarla.. German language teesukundamanukuni... mana pracheena bhasha meedha makkuva tho sanskrit teesukunte.. akkada nerchukunnadu yentra antey.. " Ramo raamaa ramaa.. hey rama.. hey ramau.. hey ramaa" inka konni stories anthey ga... end of the year okkadu sanskrit lo matladagalada?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 meru cheppindi akshara satyam.........nenu ade annnau clearing an xam is not life ani...ranks/marks/grades kakunda give me 1 criteria how u can judge or how u can pick 3K students from a lot of 3 lakh students........jus give a practical ans nenu aa comment ni entrance point of view lo asalu rayaledu....I was just countering your argument that corporate colleges brightened the lives of students in Andhra.....in fact they took away the basic ingredient required in a young teenager.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 naa suggestion on this was already mentioned in the previous posts....that is the closest we can get to practical....measure a person qualitatively as well as quantitatively.... post number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 18 years ki fillalu kooda futtittaadu saami...practical problems solve seyyaleru ante...basic education curriculum design lo ne fault annattu... common bro..........sex is taught by nature ........but maths phy chem u need to put ur own efforts to learn ........it takes tym to learn and apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chsrk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Judging is the second aspect... i am not talking about judging.. i am talking about the way those kids are taught... Teach them in an applied manner.. dont start trigonometry with sin, cos and tan... dont start calculus with differentiation and integration formulas.. start with explaining how and where they get applied and their uses in real time... then get into the situation giving real problems.. and solutions to the real problems.. teach physics and chemistry practically.. attach each session to a practical class.. dont teach practicals at the end of the year for marks sake... inka language gurinchi cheppavasarla.. German language teesukundamanukuni... mana pracheena bhasha meedha makkuva tho sanskrit teesukunte.. akkada nerchukunnadu yentra antey.. " Ramo raamaa ramaa.. hey rama.. hey ramau.. hey ramaa" inka konni stories anthey ga... end of the year okkadu sanskrit lo matladagalada?? Well said Chandu bhayyaa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 cheppanu baa clearing an xam is nthg in life .........thr vil be lakhs of people who perform better in life tan those who cleared the xam.......but nthg to judge nebody ..........18,20 years time lo basics lo vaadiki baaga telusu so seat vacchindi antheee bayata realestate lo emi saduvu rani vaadu enno crores sampayistadu.........u cant judge him on his salary ........or u cant degrade urself by comparing wid him same point here , 2 page lone seppa, e corp batch antha kalisi , eamcet , lo nno bits lono, leka iit lono rank rakapothe jeevathama sarvanasanam ayipoddi enduku faniki ramu antaru .. kaani em saduvukonodu ekkuva sampadisthadu.. majority bits lo chadivina valu banglore, hyd lo naku soft employees lagane thelusu , reserach lo naku thelisi evaru leru, sivarikii ade cycle , ma engg college and bits lo sadivina frnd oke company lo pani chethanaru , fields diff, kakapothe saly o 10k teda undi ! i doesnt mean that soptware ee dikku ani kadhu , mana system ni atta tayaru jesaru ani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 post number? 63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Judging is the second aspect... i am not talking about judging.. i am talking about the way those kids are taught... Teach them in an applied manner.. dont start trigonometry with sin, cos and tan... dont start calculus with differentiation and integration formulas.. start with explaining how and where they get applied and their uses in real time... then get into the situation giving real problems.. and solutions to the real problems.. teach physics and chemistry practically.. attach each session to a practical class.. dont teach practicals at the end of the year for marks sake... inka language gurinchi cheppavasarla.. German language teesukundamanukuni... mana pracheena bhasha meedha makkuva tho sanskrit teesukunte.. akkada nerchukunnadu yentra antey.. " Ramo raamaa ramaa.. hey rama.. hey ramau.. hey ramaa" inka konni stories anthey ga... end of the year okkadu sanskrit lo matladagalada?? ur r WRONG in my view practical must be learn in the field which u want to expertise tat is done in grad/post grad stage for 18 year kid all u need is basic knowledge on all subjects ..........aa taruvatha vaadu em choose chesukuntadu ........how life takes him and teaches him secondary.........ila prati daniki manam practicals nerchukunte intermediate anedi 5 years cheppali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 18 years ki fillalu kooda futtittaadu saami...practical problems solve seyyaleru ante...basic education curriculum design lo ne fault annattu... anna 10th inter , 3 years asalaa a age lo valaki alosinche time edithanaru ili, okate rududu ilamee, poni manolu kastapadi bits, iit lo techukunaru, migatha kontha mandi sidhartha ita saduvuthuanru, saduvu ayi bayatiki vache sariki mala routine anna andaru oke software jobuu .. corporate style of educationuu ki manugada undadu lekapothee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chsrk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 common bro..........sex is taught by nature ........but maths phy chem u need to put ur own efforts to learn ........it takes tym to learn and apply Education has to be so natural too.....and it is not so currently...Real Education is always fun, thrilling, refreshing and encouraging rey...yedhi enduku chestunnaamo telvaka guddeddu selo faddattu undhi mana education antha prasthutham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilaDi No.1 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i know the impact these corp colgs created among students of IIT,NIT,BITS,IIM JIMPER or ne reputed xam in country Avir.. may be they are helping the highly talented 1st grade students reach their aspirations by guiding them in proper way... what about other students.. Every year i see adevrtisements in TVs saying... 961,962,963 out of 1000.. But does any one advertise what is their pass rate in college?? how many people got above distinction because of their college? how many people improved their average marks from 60% to 70% from 10th to intermediate due to their college??? We should not just boast about no of IIT seats and and NIT seats... are these colleges only for IIT ,,, then they can say that and take only those students.. what about remaining people.. out of a 1000 students in collge.. how many people get into IIT ?? 10?? 20?? 50?? What about remaining??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 same point here , 2 page lone seppa, e corp batch antha kalisi , eamcet , lo nno bits lono, leka iit lono rank rakapothe jeevathama sarvanasanam ayipoddi enduku faniki ramu antaru .. kaani em saduvukonodu ekkuva sampadisthadu.. tis the bad notion on corporates...........they r there to teach........but society and parents impact the abv thing(wot u said ) much society create chesindi ......iit lono medicine lono seat rakapothe waste gaadu ani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chsrk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 anna 10th inter , 3 years asalaa a age lo valaki alosinche time edithanaru ili, okate rududu ilamee, poni manolu kastapadi bits, iit lo techukunaru, migatha kontha mandi sidhartha ita saduvuthuanru, saduvu ayi bayatiki vache sariki mala routine anna andaru oke software jobuu .. corporate style of educationuu ki manugada undadu lekapothee correctene nuvvu seppindhi....endho saduvu ferutho saage murkthatvam idhanta anifittadhi naakaithe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Education has to be so natural too.....and it is not so currently...Real Education is always fun, thrilling, refreshing and encouraging rey...yedhi enduku chestunnaamo telvaka guddeddu selu faddattu undhi mana education antha prasthutham... nalagaa intiliggent ga alosinchamntaav anthegaa ... bottom linee .. adi sepatiki endyukee mohamata fadathaav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 ur r WRONG in my view practical must be learn in the field which u want to expertise tat is done in grad/post grad stage...for 18 year kid all u need is basic knowledge on all subjects ..........aa taruvatha vaadu em choose chesukuntadu ........how life takes him and teaches him secondary.........ila prati daniki manam practicals nerchukunte intermediate anedi 5 years cheppali then why are they having practical exams in 10th,+1 and +2...if its too dangerous for an 18 year kid to do practicals...for doing basic practicals on light or sound 18 years should be enough....i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Avir.. may be they are helping the highly talented 1st grade students reach their aspirations by guiding them in proper way... what about other students.. pina chepanu deniki INDIA lo andarini accomodate cheyyataniki PLACE ledu......only hardwrkers at that time enter into those school lo andariki oke patam chebutharu......okadu intrest tho vintadu okadu vinadu.......vinani vaadu gurinchi colg nadavavu......vine vadi gurinchi matrame nadustayiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 tis the bad notion on corporates...........they r there to teach........but society and parents impact the abv thing(wot u said ) much society create chesindi ......iit lono medicine lono seat rakapothe waste gaadu ani i think its injected , mana fathers time lonu engg undi, valem poti padi sadavledhu manlagaa fyi , nachithe sadive valu lekapothe lite thesukunevaru, sidhartha college 1978 lo pettaru engg .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Education has to be so natural too.....and it is not so currently...Real Education is always fun, thrilling, refreshing and encouraging rey...yedhi enduku chestunnaamo telvaka guddeddu selo faddattu undhi mana education antha prasthutham... cheppaga natural ga nerchukovali.............anni xperimental gane nerchukovali ante inter 5 years cheppali........okko newton law ki okko xperiment cheyyali.......inter lo antha practicality avasaram ledu.........nerchukoni em chestavv????? ade grad /post grad lo avi neevu choose chesukune feild ki panikostayi kabatti nerchukovali ....but y in inter???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP SIMHA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 correctene nuvvu seppindhi....endho saduvu ferutho saage murkthatvam idhanta anifittadhi naakaithe.... they created like that ani nenu bhaivisthunaa annay , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chsrk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 ur r WRONG in my view practical must be learn in the field which u want to expertise tat is done in grad/post grad stage for 18 year kid all u need is basic knowledge on all subjects ..........aa taruvatha vaadu em choose chesukuntadu ........how life takes him and teaches him secondary.........ila prati daniki manam practicals nerchukunte intermediate anedi 5 years cheppali We can have practicals right from the basics..not from Grad/post grad stage....Students instead of just having bookish knowledge should be exposed to practical things...and that can happen if proper measures are taken right from school...I see certain American schools doing things that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D No.2 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 common bro..........sex is taught by nature ........but maths phy chem u need to put ur own efforts to learn ........it takes tym to learn and apply maths phy chem are around us and can be learnt by observations....you need not memorise or mug up....its just that we were taught to do that we feel that there is effort involved in that..do you remember the effort you put in learning basic arthimetic or trig...but you will remember the effort you put in calculus because you are made to feel that it is tough and so on...In truth they are all natural extensions of each other and just a way of thinking..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamaha Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i think its injected , mana fathers time lonu engg undi, valem poti padi sadavledhu manlagaa fyi , nachithe sadive valu lekapothe lite thesukunevaru, sidhartha college 1978 lo pettaru engg .. early jobs to those engg created cult mentality in society........corporates jus cashed them which is not wrong market demanded and they supplied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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