sskmaestro Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Kiran said: ? ikkada puppet AJ view, akkada atleast view kadhu interview Oka govt body ni munchinollu.... govt employees ni manage chesi interviews ippinchalera? Pressmeets lo Defense minster is not able to answer the questions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskmaestro Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 ONGC ni Ongobetti..... LIC ni laluchi padela chesi.... HAL ni munchesaru..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskmaestro Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 Forget about manufacturing Rafeal, Anil Ambani’s company doesn’t have a fighter jet washing experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Defence minister kante that IAF guy was part of the process he can better answer these questions HAL ni munchatam narrative ento asala comedy its a public sector company ee work kakapothe inkoti valla salaries vallaki vasthai. what fighter jet washing experience did mukesh have when UPA approved deal between dassault and reliance in 2013? ? atleast here there is some defence related experience via pipavav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskmaestro Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 “Idhi kaka pothey inkoti” and “valla salaries vallaki vastayi” why cant the same be applied to Mukesh Ambani? Idhi kakapothey inkoti.... he will earn profits some where else.... govt institutes like ISRO, DRDO and HAL has some prominence and not mere rubber stamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskmaestro Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 Ivala HAL ni kadannodu repu malli PM ayithey DRDO ni side cheyyadu ani guarantee enti ? #justAsking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, sskmaestro said: “Idhi kaka pothey inkoti” and “valla salaries vallaki vastayi” why cant the same be applied to Mukesh Ambani? Idhi kakapothey inkoti.... he will earn profits some where else.... govt institutes like ISRO, DRDO and HAL has some prominence and not mere rubber stamps. You should ask Dassault, 70 companies lo okati Reliance ni why ani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollu Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kiran said: Defence minister kante that IAF guy was part of the process he can better answer these questions HAL ni munchatam narrative ento asala comedy its a public sector company ee work kakapothe inkoti valla salaries vallaki vasthai. what fighter jet washing experience did mukesh have when UPA to approve deal between dassault and reliance in 2013? ? atleast here there is some defence related experience via pipavav idi emi question mastaru, HAL ki e contract lekapothe inkoti vasthayi ante, e PM kakapothe inko chaiwala vasthadu, but merit is important kada for any post or for any sector. even upa deal lo any reliance either mukesh/anil evaru unna ide adigevallu if the deal was finalized. deal lo emi undo teliyakundane enduku icharo teliyakundane godava chesthara? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, sskmaestro said: Ivala HAL ni kadannodu repu malli PM ayithey DRDO ni side cheyyadu ani guarantee enti ? #justAsking Aa ee govt. military investment compare chesthe previous govt medha chaala better who said they didn’t have money to buy rafale jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bollu said: idi emi question mastaru, HAL ki e contract lekapothe inkoti vasthayi ante, e PM kakapothe inko chaiwala vasthadu, but merit is important kada for any post or for any sector. even upa deal lo any reliance either mukesh/anil evaru unna ide adigevallu if the deal was finalized. deal lo emi undo teliyakundane enduku icharo teliyakundane godava chesthara? Merit comes into play if we are building aircrafts in India. Since we are not building here HAL doesn’t come into play. Ee chinna vishayam eppudu ardhamayyidhi. Either in UPA or NDA as offset partners Ambanis were there among other companies which includes HALs joint venture SNecma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollu Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kiran said: Merit comes into play if we are building aircrafts in India. Since we are not building here HAL doesn’t come into play. Ee chinna vishayam eppudu ardhamayyidhi. Either in UPA or NDA as offset partners Ambanis were there among other companies which includes HALs joint venture SNecma. emi selavichaaru, build aircrafts ki aithe merit kavala. paniki malina vadiki offset contract ichhi plastic items ni supply cheyamana?. why you have not set up a guidelines says that only if this criteria match then only they are eligible ani. asalu company 2 days mundala start chesi e qualification lekunda ivvachhu annamata. baga selavichharu. topasu IT job ke 5 round lu conduct chesthunanru interviews and test 1-2 lac crore making ki merit akkaraledu anta. UPA chesina vedava panini tesi avathal veyukunda inka danni support chesthunanvu ga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKA Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Kiran said: You should ask Dassault, 70 companies lo okati Reliance ni why ani. Brother....there will be so many stringent checks and balances to be selected as a vendor for any defense related purchases/contracts, even if that entity is not directly involved. When Dassault selected Reliance as a partner, why was government silent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bollu said: emi selavichaaru, build aircrafts ki aithe merit kavala. paniki malina vadiki offset contract ichhi plastic items ni supply cheyamana?. why you have not set up a guidelines says that only if this criteria match then only they are eligible ani. asalu company 2 days mundala start chesi e qualification lekunda ivvachhu annamata. baga selavichharu. topasu IT job ke 5 round lu conduct chesthunanru interviews and test 1-2 lac crore making ki merit akkaraledu anta. UPA chesina vedava panini tesi avathal veyukunda inka danni support chesthunanvu ga. 1. HAL main mandate is to build aircrafts that’s what it’s doing. As joint ventures they also pursue offset activities, in case of Rafale they are doing with Snecma. 2. 50% of the deal needs investment in India as part of make in India initiative. Why are you struck at Reliance there are 70 other partners. All companies can utilize this opportunity. Aircraft build cheyali ante experienced kavali for parts not that necessary. Reliance acquired pipapav defence Ltd to enter this area, so they meet required guidelines for both govt. and Dassault. 3. UPA deal was 2.4 lac crore, they said they didn’t have money and the deal fell through. IAF guy already indicated 18 rounds of negotiations happened. NDA deal is 60k crore roughly of which 30k crore should be invested in India. For this already they have 70+ companies and Reliance, Snecma HAL, Mahendra etc are there. Government’s are only involved in govt-govt deal. Dassault can choose and pick partners, later GOI will audit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, RKA said: Brother....there will be so many stringent checks and balances to be selected as a vendor for any defense related purchases/contracts, even if that entity is not directly involved. When Dassault selected Reliance as a partner, why was government silent? As per agreement Dassault can pick and choose any govt. registered company within the make in India frame work. During UPA they made deal with RIL, mukesh passed the wing to Anil, now they did with ADAG. Anil acquired defence company Pipapav defence Ltd to enter defence market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollu Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kiran said: 1. HAL main mandate is to build aircrafts that’s what it’s doing. As joint ventures they also pursue offset activities, in case of Rafale they are doing with Snecma. 2. 50% of the deal needs investment in India as part of make in India initiative. Why are you struck at Reliance there are 70 other partners. All companies can utilize this opportunity. Aircraft build cheyali ante experienced kavali for parts not that necessary. Reliance acquired pipapav defence Ltd to enter this area, so they meet required guidelines for both govt. and Dassault. 3. UPA deal was 2.4 lac crore, they said they didn’t have money and the deal fell through. IAF guy already indicated 18 rounds of negotiations happened. NDA deal is 60k crore roughly of which 30k crore should be invested in India. For this already they have 70+ companies and Reliance, Snecma HAL, Mahendra etc are there. Government’s are only involved in govt-govt deal. Dassault can choose and pick partners, later GOI will audit. 50% deal make in India plan unnappudu 70 companies ki ichhe badulu tender process initiate chesi guidelines ichhi enduku opt chesukoledu. as there any specific reason for that. even rafeal kooda manam bidder process lone select chesamu in upa govt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bollu said: 50% deal make in India plan unnappudu 70 companies ki ichhe badulu tender process initiate chesi guidelines ichhi enduku opt chesukoledu. as there any specific reason for that. even rafeal kooda manam bidder process lone select chesamu in upa govt. Yes Dassault was selected in bidding process, deal govt-govt, offset partners choice of Dassault, companies need to be picked based on certain make in India guidelines, later audit by govt. idhi current process offset partner tenders cheyochu but they have to reveal parts etc in advance and logistics etc. involved not sure if it’s feasible option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollu Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kiran said: Yes Dassault was selected in bidding process, deal govt-govt, offset partners choice of Dassault, companies need to be picked based on certain make in India guidelines, later audit by govt. idhi current process offset partner tenders cheyochu but they have to reveal parts etc in advance and logistics etc. involved not sure if it’s feasible option anduke godavalu start ayyayi. hal ainattu aithe no one could have asked. ivval kooda jaitley emiti press meet lo price reveal cheyakodadu antadu https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/rafale-will-not-be-cancelled-will-wait-for-cag-report-arun-jaitley/articleshow/65919848.cms. price ne kada chepthundi. inka technical ki vasthe manm vetini vadedi china to fight chesetaappude kada, pak to avasaram kooda undakapovachhu. china vallaka a matram idea undada emi emi features unnayo. e deal lo china vallaki ammakudadu ani emina rule ettara? lekapothe vadu kooda oka 10 koni made in china ante for us what is the use with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollu Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 55 minutes ago, Kiran said: Yes Dassault was selected in bidding process, deal govt-govt, offset partners choice of Dassault, companies need to be picked based on certain make in India guidelines, later audit by govt. idhi current process offset partner tenders cheyochu but they have to reveal parts etc in advance and logistics etc. involved not sure if it’s feasible option and one more question vadiki 45k crores contract ichharu, maufacture cheyadu ani reliance vade cheppadu france lo tayaru ayyedenailo, but india lo maufacture ayeevatiki vadu chesthada? or assemble chesthada leka maintenance chesthada. do you have any link exactly what are the reliance roles in offset plan? https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/in-second-letter-to-rahul-gandhi-anil-ambani-counters-rafale-changes-1319718-2018-08-21 'NOT MANUFACTURING' In a strong counter to the "Rs 45,000 crore benefit to the group despite lack of experience" charge levelled by Rahul Gandhi against Reliance, Ambani has stated in the letter that "not a single component" of the 36 Rafale aircraft purchased by India "worth a single rupee is to be manufactured by Reliance". Ambani adds, "Our role is limited to offset exports and export obligations. More than 100 medium, small and micro enterprises (MSMEs) will participate in this, along with public sector undertakings like BEL and Defence Research & Development Organization (DRDO). This role strengthens Indian manufacturing capabilities, and is in pursuance of the Offsets Policy introduced by the Congress-led UPA Government itself from 2005 onwards." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Bollu said: and one more question vadiki 45k crores contract ichharu, maufacture cheyadu ani reliance vade cheppadu france lo tayaru ayyedenailo, but india lo maufacture ayeevatiki vadu chesthada? or assemble chesthada leka maintenance chesthada. do you have any link exactly what are the reliance roles in offset plan? https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/in-second-letter-to-rahul-gandhi-anil-ambani-counters-rafale-changes-1319718-2018-08-21 'NOT MANUFACTURING' In a strong counter to the "Rs 45,000 crore benefit to the group despite lack of experience" charge levelled by Rahul Gandhi against Reliance, Ambani has stated in the letter that "not a single component" of the 36 Rafale aircraft purchased by India "worth a single rupee is to be manufactured by Reliance". Ambani adds, "Our role is limited to offset exports and export obligations. More than 100 medium, small and micro enterprises (MSMEs) will participate in this, along with public sector undertakings like BEL and Defence Research & Development Organization (DRDO). This role strengthens Indian manufacturing capabilities, and is in pursuance of the Offsets Policy introduced by the Congress-led UPA Government itself from 2005 onwards." There is no manufacturing in India, thats why no direct involvement of HAL, the 36 flights will be manufactured and delivered with missiles in fly-away condition starting 2019 ending 2022. There will be another new tender next year for 110 flights. you can follow this link for offset partners and their role https://www.livefistdefence.com/2018/03/rafale-deal-first-full-details-of-frances-e4-billion-india-offsets-plan.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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