jai balu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Ghost baaga cheppavu..Kaani, I have still some doubts about his caliber..I am not a sachin hater, but at the same time i am not too convinced to get such a fame when compared to Brian Lara. I agree that sachin is much more disciplined for cricket than Lara.. Like as you mentioned 30 centuries were on the winning steam..How many of them actually get under chase or when India batting second? How many times he got a good score on the board when india has to chase 300+ scores? How many times he won the test matches single handedly for India..As you all know test matches are the potential ones to describe the real caliber of any cricketer..Brian Lara single handedly did it for west Indies more than once..I didn't recaptitulate one from Sachin like that..do you? Sachin ki antha caliber unnappudu middle order lo konni matches adagaanne, akkada records raavadm ledhu ani opening ki velladu..you know what you mean..is he a team player? If he is a team player, definately he has to play as per team requirements..But he never interseted to come down the order..don't u think he is selfish? Seema simham gaaru, meeru aa gangulyki musugu pan ani maaku ardam ayyindhi, meelanti vallakosam aa details pettam pakka taadulo choodandi, chaging lo kooda sachin average ekkuvndhi migatavallakanna. meeru matchlu chooddam modalu pettinde 1998 taravatha ani maaku ardam avuthundi bagane. 1989 nunchi sachin aadina anni matchulu choosi taravatha matladandi. deni gurinchina almost from 1990 to 2000 he played cricket with 10 fools . he is only the cricket player and in that era, remaining plyers also played only some occations for sankrathi and sivarathri in a year. when sachin is not in form he used to out in some critical matches but not in his entire career. first know about sachin and see his all matches from starting and analyze. Ee ganguly fans emi pani pata undadu, vaadu sariga adadam ledani pakkanolla meeda edustuntaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Sachin polchukune antha seenu gangulu ekkada cricket vishayaniki vaste Sachin , peddayana NTR aithe, ganguly sotha dabba kottukuni cheepu rajakeeyalu chese chiranjeevi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permban Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Suppose if your point is right. then also he contributes his part why shouldn't others, for what they in team ? you people cant think all these things because, doing something against sachin is passion for you people and especially ganguly fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Did I use any bad words against Sachin? I just had a constructive discussion..feel free to discuss..thats it.. for your sake, i don't even convinced with Ganuguly either..I like only people who played selflessely for country.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 because of sachin only now inidan cricket team has some good name around the world after the kapil, and gavaskar. otherwise our team is most weakest team in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Where is Sachin..where is ganguly man..Don't even dare to compare like that.. If you want to compare sachin..compare against Brain Lara, Bradman, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 There is no point in arguing Sachin with his team mates..broaden your knowledge and try to have a fait discussion by comparing iwth stalwarts from other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I aslo didn't used any bad words if you want go through the message once again what you told sachin is selfish player common we can talk on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I abide by the sentence what I have written.. Sachin became selfish as time goes on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 In your view remaining plyers are not selfish ok I agree suppose sachin is selfish just look at his figures in inida he is having amlost 44 average in oneday matches after playing more than 400 matches. and around 90 strike rete why remaining players doesn't have these figures these figures showing that he has been contributing his role without any doubt, but people like you always think in different way. Other didn't utilise situations correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If he shouldn't be selfish..why didn't he continued in the middle order when Sehwag and Ganguly used to open the Innigns? Did you remember? Of course, there is some selfishness from Ganguly also..He also wants to open .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Wakeup sudhakar, statistics are always numbers..if you keep on opening, then he always get a chance to bat for longer periods than the people trailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 he is not taking too much balls to play, his 90 strike rate is telling that fact. his average telling that, his contribution is around 44 in every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 See Lara where he batted during his last tenure..He even came down in the order around 7th 0r 8th spot as team requires some one to finish the games.. Lara never sticked to the same place..whereever he came, he showed his brilliance.. Coming to Sachin, when he came in the middle order, he didn't make a single hundred..By relaizing that he moved up the order.. Making 50 runs in the middle order is equivalent to making 150 runs in the opening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If you vandalize minnows like UAE, Zimbabawe, Kenya..You definately increase your avearage and strike rate.. If you are dare enough, compare averages of Lara and Sachin against Australia both in tests and One-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 boss you shoud wakeup, yes in that situation he is not in the form, he was suffering from alot in those days. In the middle overs there is high pressure. if the person is not in the form what is the neccesity in comming in that position. Selector shoud have kept him away from the team till he got form, selectors didn'n have that much dare to do. What is there in blaming sachin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 :D boss in his 42 centuries 7 against australia if you want check and talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 babu anni details pakka taadulo vesamu choosi matladu. oorake naa time waste cheyyaka nee kosam kinda vesta choodu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 babu, seema simham please go through this. then talk Regarding Sachin........... about sachin's cricket 7 Dec 06 06:32:09 AM Tags: cricket sachin tendulkar Amazing Stats on the Little Volcano… This is what we hear from most of SACHIN’S CRITICS 1.Selfish 2.Scoring Against weaker Oppostions 3.Failing in pressure situation Little Info about this 1.Selfish Well Records are meant to be broken and if Sachin is breaking them critics[haters more rightly] can't digest them.. One of the incidents people mention is regarding his 194 knock against pakistan..some said it was slow knock..agreed it was a slow knock by Sachin's stature,but if it is compared wid one of the knock wid Dravid...this will not look as bad it seems.. Tendulkar- 194 runs in multan with a strike rate of around 54 Dravid- 217 runs in oval with a strike rate of around 46 I m just taking one example to tell that Dravid's natural game is to hold the one end and let the others to dominate..in multan Sachin changed his gears and holded one end and he let sehwag to dominate..played Rahul's role in that innings. Now this is called team game.. but people call it slow batting and selfish... Sachin always said Team's win is more important than personal landmark..He proved this statement in that very test by taking Moin Khan's wicket off the last ball of the 3rd day..That Ball was beauty!!Wasn't he happy at that moment??? Since Sachin is the most senior player of the team so he can't throw his wicket just to prove critics that he is still a master blaster...[he is still scoring at brisk rate in onedays]..People forget his fast scroing Centuries against world class bowling 169 [201 balls] against South Africa in 1997 at Capetown 92 [120 balls] against West Indies in 1997 at Bridgetown 155 [191 balls] against Australia in 1998 at Chennai 79 [ 85 balls] against Australia in 1998 at Kolkata 100 in 123 balls against NewZealand in 1999 at Wellington[he scored 113 runs in that inning] 155 [183 balls] against South Africa in 2001 in Bloemfontein There are many other breath taking innings in tests from 10dulkar. But everyone please note this down..Sachin is the Only Batsman in Test Cricket who scored 3 Centuries wid a SIX 179 - 6 off Walsh[i remember it was a hook shot] against WestIndies in 1994 at Nagpur 124 - 6 off Min Patel[off spinner,straight down the ground] against England in 1996 at Birmingham 113 - 6 off Wiseman[off spinner,straight down the ground] against Newzealnad in 1999 at Wellington Critics says he plays for his records and centuries..Now just look to this.. One Day Centuries- 39[out of 39 centuries India Won 28 times and lost 10 times,1 century in a rain affected match] 10 centuries gone in Vain.. Half Centuries- 72 now here is that intresting part out of these 72 centuries Sachin got 28 scores of 80 and above in these 28 scores if we take out the innings in which he was not out [coz of over completed or target chased ] he was 5 times not out in such innings so now lets talk about remaining 23 innings Can u believe he has 10 scores of 90's??? If these 90's were converted in 100's the stats looks likes this Centuries-49 just one short of 50 ODI centuries... and look he missed another record for those who have so much fuss about playing for records.. getting out highest numbers of times in 90's in ODI's ..just coz he wanted to score for the team and not for the his personal records he got out 10times in 90's Test Centuries- 35 [12 in which India won,15 in dead tests,8 in lost tests] lone warrior in tests which India lost Half Centuries- 41 Intresting Part 12 scores of 80+ 6 scores of 90's convert them in 100s..he will pass 40 centuries in Test Cricket..sad for critics he played for team and thats why couldn't converted these 90's into 100's 2.Scoring Against weaker Oppostions 19/07/2006 08:50 This can happen in India only.. People remembers 152 against Namibia and forgets 98 against Pakistan in WorldCup People remembers 248 against Bangladesh and forgets his 7 centuries against World Champions Australia [4 in their own den].. Only one century against Bangladesh and share the honour of scoring test century against each test playing nation wid Dravid,Ponting and Garry Kristen...No one talk about other 3 batsman scored centuries against Bangladesh..then why the fuss for Sachin?? Test Australia - 7 Centuries [4 in Australia], 2 of them at the age of 18 in 1992 Bangladesh- 1 Century [unfortunately his highest score in Test Cricket] England- 6 Centuries [4 in England], NewZealand- 3 Centuries [1 in NewZealand] Pakistan- 2 Centuries [1 in Pakistan] SouthAfrica- 3 Centuries [all three in South Africa] Srilanka- 7 Centuries [4 in Srilanka] WestIndies- 3 Centuries [ 1 in WestIndies] Zimbabwe- 3 Centuries [ none in Zimbabwe] 90+ 96 against Srilanka at Banglore in 1994 92 against West Indies at Bridgetown in 1997 97 against South Africa at Mumbai in 2000 90 against England at Banglore in 2001 92 against England at Nottingham in 2002 94 against Pakistan at Mohali in 2005 Intresting Part He scored runs in all parts of world..There are three types of wickets u generally found in Cricket..Fast and bouncy Pitches like in Australia,South-Africa,NewZealand,WestIndies,Spin tracks in India,Srilanka,Pakistan,and seeming tracks like in England. Today people talk about Ricky Ponting...now check this out contd 19/07/2006 08:51 Sachin's and Ponting's average at their own home soil is above 55 so nothing to discuss this here,but the real part starts now Sachin's average in Australia 54.15 , 4 centuries Ponting's average in India,12.28 , no centuries Sachin's average in England 71.60 , 4 centuries Ponting's average in England 42.63 , 3 centuries I am taking records for these countries only bcoz.. rightnow,best fast bowlers are from Australia,best spinners are from India,Best Seamers from england[as there is no choice bcoz only england have such pitches] Anyone can take easily tell who played gud cricket against best attack on all kind of pitches... One Day Australia - 7 Centuries + 1 score of 90's Bangladesh- 0 Century England- 1 Centuries + 1 score of 90's Kenya- 4 Centuries Namibia- 1 Century NewZealand 4 Centuries Pakistan- 5 Centuries + 4 scores of 90's SouthAfrica- 3 Centuries + 1 score of 90's Srilanka- 7 Centuries + 3 score of 90's WestIndies- 2 Centuries Zimbabwe- 5 Centuries 90+ 90 against Australia in 1996 at Mumbai 91 against England in 1997 at Sharjah 95 against Pakistan in 1998 at Dhaka 93 against Pakistan in 2000 at Hobart 93 against SouthAfrica in 2000 at Nagpur 93 against Srilanka in 2000 at Dhaka 98 against Pakistan in 2003 at Centurion 97 against Srilanka in 2003 at Johannesburg 93 against Srilanka in 2005 at Nagpur 95 against Pakistan in 2006 at Lahore Intresting Part Only 5 Centuries against minnows like Kenya ,Namibia[non test playing nation]...and Kenya was the semi-finalist of the world cup'03 10 scores of above 90 against only test playing nations...now can anyone tell me how is he selfish?? 34 times he scored more than 80 and couldn't reached 100..If he played for his records..he could easily scored 100's all of those scores above 80's ... 3.Failing in pressure situation 19/07/2006 08:51 ODI Won Chasing Target M R H AVG 100s 50s Sachin- 101 4397 134 58.62 13 23 Dravid- 72 2124 109* 49.39 2 19 Ponting- 77 2670 124* 53.40 4 17 In Quater Finals Sachin- 3 210 141 70.00 1 0 Dravid- 2 57 48 28.50 0 0 Ponting- 3 118 46 39.33 0 0 In Semi Finals Sachin- 7 232 83 33.14 0 2 Dravid- 4 28 58 42.66 0 1 Ponting- 5 71 37 14.20 0 0 In Finals Sachin - 36 1487 134 47.96 4 9 Dravid- 23 690 103* 34.50 1 3 Ponting- 33 1217 140* 45.07 2 6 All Finals Sachin- 47 1954 141 46.52 5 11 Dravid- 30 943 103* 37.72 1 5 Ponting- 41 1406 140* 40.17 2 6 In Series Won Sachin- 127 5548 186* 51.37 19 26 Dravid- 76 2645 153 42.66 2 22 Ponting- 177 7245 145 47.98 18 45 In Test 100's in Tests India Won - 12 100's in Tests India Lost - 8 100's in Test Drawn - 15 Holds the record of maxium number of 100's for loosing team...That means a lone warrior..Thats why once Indian Cricket Team was called as ONE MAN ARMY!!!! More Intresting Part!!!!!!!! Often said Sachin gets fail at crunch situation...Well 1st we must admit that when Sachin on the crease Win is sure...As soon Sachin gets out..the situation becomes crunchy!!! Sachin is out,now who will win match for us?? Dravid ?? or Sehwag?? or Yuvraj?? Or Ganguly?? No one sure who will win match for them... So bcoz of this thing Teams targets Sachin as the most precious wicket... Nasser Hussain introduced Negative lines for Sachin Tendulkar to stop the flow of runs when he is on wicket!!! Local umpires also involved some times to help their team against Sachin Tendulkar,espeically Australians! Some incidents striking in my mind...I think Sachin is the player who got out maximum numbers of times bcoz of bad or wrong decision by Umpires..I m producing those incidents only which I remember,there may be many other too 1. 92 - out of a NO ball from Frankline Rose against West Indies in 1997 at Bridgetown..Remember India lost the test just by 38 runs..U can just imagine how much that bad decision effected the result of the match!!! 2. 83 - Out of a NO ball again..[don't remember the bowler] last test in WestIndies in 1997.Draw Test. 3. 67- LBW off Crains..last test against NewZealand in 1999, was not out coz the ball pitched outside the legstump.Match Drawn 4. 61 - caught at forward shortleg,bowler Shane Warne.against Australia at Adelaide in 1999.. the ball touched the thigh pads and Umpire Darel Harper gave him out.. India were 107 for 4 when Ganguly joined Sachin and they put on 108 runs for the 5th wicket.. 5. 0 - LBW bowler Macgrath..against Australia at Adelaide in 1999,same test, nothing more to say..Everyone remember that FOOLISH decision 6. 52 - LBW bowler Shane Warne,Umpire David Shepherd,against Australia at Melbourne in 1999, were chasing 356 as a target on the fourth day. 7. 45 - LBW bowler Macgrath,UmpireIan Robinson,against Australia at Sydney in 2000, the ball seemed to hit him too high and was going on leg stump, In that very over,Tendulkar had pulled a short one from Macgrath for two,and hooked the next two for boundaries,and a ball later punched the fast bowler back past him for the 3rd four of the over 8. 16 - caught behind off Waqar Younis,against Pakistan at Perth in 2000, it was must win situation for India to qualify in the final , scored 16 runs of 9 balls,hitted 3 fours in one over of Waqar Younis and 1 off Wasim Akram on the fastest pitch of the world,India were chasing 260 odd runs... 9. 0 - LBW bowler Gillespie,Umpire Bucknor,against Australia at Brisbane in 2003 funny thing is that the bowler not applead for the LBW... MR.Bucknor gave the decision of his own 10. 0 - caught behind off Lee,against Australia at Melbourne in 2003,ball touched the thigh pads and umpire given him out. 11. 54 - caught behind,Umpire Bucknor,against Pakistan at Kolkata in 2005, I think we all seen that decison, theball was not near to his pad,gloves,helmet,arm.. no where... There may be so many other incident like this...Teams like Australia taking help from the umpires to stop Tendulkar... the 1999-2000 tour of Australia proves it.. THIS IS THE ANSWER TO ALL WHO HATE SACHIN TENDULKAR “GOD OF CRICKET” HEY CRITICS is that ENOUGH OR STILL U WANT And the last thing is that Sachin played 11 years [1989-2000] in the era where his own team mates involved in match fixing.. So despite of his brilliant knocks we failed to win the match just bcoz others not contirbuting..Yuo can win ODI's just wid ur own batting but u can't win test matches wid one innings bcoz test played for 5 days its a 4 inning game..Still Tendulkar's record in that era is Awesome.. and remember The awe of opponents was as great as that of crowds. But the finest compliment must be that bookmakers would not fix the odds - or a game - until Tendulkar was out. http://vinram.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/12/regarding-sachin-.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I am going bye. have a great time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Boss..score cheynappudu edo oka reason dorikiddy..Boss nee kante memu chaala busy..I am not a wayward guy to waste ur time.. if you are busy, just sign off..no need to discuss..but don't easily blame others..show respect to others..I don't like to attack personally afterall we both are nandamuri fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 hello pina vastavalu choopinche sariki ila matladutunnaru anna mata ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinnu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 idendi sachin , ponting madhyalo dravid ni vesaru ... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandurangadu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I can decide that whether I have to sing off or not. let it be there. next point, if you want to comment on others know the facts and comment on facts, I also cooperate with you. without knowing facts you people blaiming sachin. that is not good. go through the details and know the facts then call me for the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinnu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 sudhakar anna (cool2)(cool2)(cool2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinnu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 sachin is one the best bastmen ...idi known fact... but 400+ matches aadi records kottdam anedi not great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinnu Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 nuvvu kaavalante last 2 -3 yrs choodu ... sachin n ponting compare cheyyi...u ll know the truth..(cool1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seema_simham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Lara is a better batsman than Sachin simply because he tends to score big whenever he plays against teams like Australia and South Africa and the stats actually support it. Lara has scored three 200's against the Aussies 2 of which have come in Australia and apart from that he has a test record of 375 as well whereas Sachin has a couple of 200's against New Zealand and Zimbabwe and that too in India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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