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4 minutes ago, Sunny@CBN said:

Brother, what did we do to stop Russia. Sending medicines is a big deal?  We were selfish from day1. We wanted our students back, we want cheap oil now.

Someone posted earlier that Ukrainians deserve it for wanting to be a part of NATO. This makes me feel sad. When the war started I also supported Russia but not at present.

Maybe Im spineless but that is me. I don't have this character like Gujju mafia taking advantage of such crisis.

Sunny brother - I wish I could do it in a few lines - since you are not aware of the root of the problem. Cannot go in lengthy details, but will give few key moments.  

It starts after WWII 1945, 'new world order' conceptualization by west, NATO formation '49, UN and other International bodies' creation by west, Warsa pact by soviet in 1955,  Soviet fall in '91. Warsa pact closure - west's guarantee of Russia security with no NATO expansion, Waves of NATO expansion since '90s more than dozen countries getting absorbed in to NATO even as recent as 2016, making Ukraine a satellite state since 90's - a direct threat to Russia, Obama govt Ukraine coup in 2014 toppling a democratic govt., Killing more than 14000 people(Russian speaking Ukranian citizens) prior to this war in Donestk and Lunhansk areas by Ukraine militias with support from Ukraine govt and west.   Can go on ......

You need to bone up on this brother, you got to delve in to key points I mentioned for a thorough understanding, do an Independent Investigation..

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5 minutes ago, Sunny@CBN said:

Haha sarigga chadavandi. I said support not war.. china tho war chesestadi USA ani cheppana?

Chidatalu vayinchukotanika aa support ipudu ukraine lo chastuna ppl ki..... 

 

Ee chthi manta tho chali kachukune type mustli support kante..... Putin gadini kelakunda instigate cheyakunda... Past lo against nato expansion ichina promises follow aithe melu chesina vallu avtaru.... Ee sanctions tho em pekuntaru akada chastuna ukrainians..... 

Learn to see bigger pictures... Cheers...!! 

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Regarding India, China and West's help...

When in Galwan Chinese soldiers abruptly pushed unsuspecting Indian soldiers who went for a talk with their counterparts, in to river, 20 died. India paid back the gesture in kind with killing more than 45 Chinese soldiers later. India didnt expect anything from others; By the way, nobody came to India's rescue, not even by support statements; India is not expecting its battles to be fought by others. India has clear head and it knows why it is treading its own path.

(Interdependency is mutual cooperation, a good thing; But If one wants to be interdependent, before that, one should know how to be Independent. Dependency can not buy interdependency, only Independence can have that choice. ( This is not mine, just paraphrased Steven covey's work in essence)

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"Mounting battlefield losses and crippling Western sanctions on the Russian economy could be pushing Putin to seek a face-saving end to the conflict." AL-JAZEERA

By the way the west is also supporting Ukraine with missiles and anti-tanks. Russia may not be able to continue the war for long.

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India's position - Dont read too much in the West about 'Democracy', 'freedom of speech' etc things, mostly for public consumption. Behind the scenes, West policy makers would have liked a banana republic or a dictatorship in charge in India, to kowtow their position in this issue. India - Ruling party may be leading the charge & carefully navigating the policy as it heads the govt. on behalf of Indian people, but credit also be given to all parties who are in unison - party  A to Z in this issue.  Voice of 130 crores of people. 

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15 minutes ago, Sunny@CBN said:

"Mounting battlefield losses and crippling Western sanctions on the Russian economy could be pushing Putin to seek a face-saving end to the conflict." AL-JAZEERA

By the way the west is also supporting Ukraine with missiles and anti-tanks. Russia may not be able to continue the war for long.

Russia will continue the war until Ukraine agrees to demands. They have that capacity. 

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3 hours ago, kurnool NTR said:

 

(General consumption) Venezuela's Maduro may be bad dictator until two weeks ago, but not now.  After sanctioning Russian Oil, a back channel deal hot on the grill-  Biden administration sent few envoys to work out a deal with Venezuela, so that they can get some extra needed oil at this time; Maduro is not impressed so far. Simultaneously Biden admin. is putting the Iran Nuke deal in motion with negotiations; If that works out, may be some oil in the near future...

Jen Psaki is giving morality & 'how history is written' for world public through obedient media, full well knowing the above developments their administration is currently engaging on; The emperor has no clothes, but who will tell ! 

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50 minutes ago, Sr Fan said:

(General consumption) Venezuela's Maduro may be bad dictator until two weeks ago, but not now.  After sanctioning Russian Oil, a back channel deal hot on the grill-  Biden administration sent few envoys to work out a deal with Venezuela, so that they can get some extra needed oil at this time; Maduro is not impressed so far. Simultaneously Biden admin. is putting the Iran Nuke deal in motion with negotiations; If that works out, may be some oil in the near future...

Jen Psaki is giving morality & 'how history is written' for world public through obedient media, full well knowing the above developments their administration is currently engaging on; The emperor has no clothes, but who will tell ! 

It has its own consequences. In order to get the oil deal, sanctions against Iran needs to be relaxed. Iran would get stronger in economy. Jerusalem, a US ally may have objection on this because they don’t like Iranians (Persians) getting rich and testing their nuclear weapons one day. 

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On Wednesday, Indian government officials said that state-controlled Indian Oil Corp. had reached a deal to buy 3 million barrels of oil from Russia’s Rosneft Oil Co. at a 20% discount to global prices. This is a drop in the ocean of India’s oil needs, which stood at 4.5 million barrels a day in January. Still, if a payment system in rupees is worked out that insulates the transaction from sanctions placed on Russia, much more could follow.

 

 

Superrrr.... We r no. 1...always on right path..... with spine...!! 

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To India and many other developing countries, Western powers and the institutions they dominate appear to have different standards for conflicts close to home. While the World Bank has been slow to address the concerns of other war-torn nations, it has put together a $700 million package for Ukraine in record time. Some economists say the International Monetary Fund may be skirting its norms to send $1.4 billion in emergency funding to Ukraine.

 

Meanwhile, 

those same Western nations are proving themselves poor stewards of the global commons. Take the cutoff of several Russian banks from the SWIFT financial messaging system. We have grown accustomed to thinking of interbank communications as a global utility; they’ve now been turned into a tool of Western foreign policy.

 

This was a unilateral decision by the countries that control SWIFT which, besides the U.S. and Japan, are all European. Little thought was given to how countries such as India, which rely on SWIFT to pay for oil and fertilizers from Russia, would manage the fallout. It should come as no surprise that India’s reaction has been to look for a way around the sanctions by settling trade with Russia in rupees and rubles
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Criticizing India for continuing to buy oil from Russia is especially galling, given that European nations have yet to wean themselves off Russian energy supplies either. And, unlike them, India can hardly afford such bills. If oil remains above $70 a barrel for months, the rupee will collapse, the government will run out of spending money, inflation will skyrocket and the country will have to start worrying about a balance of payments crisis.

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Europe emi complete cut cheskole energy input from russia....?? 

What is their per capita and how can it be compared to india.... 

 

Last decade antha iran di konodu ani penta... Ipudu russia.... 

 

Vella bongu lo strategies ki india bokka pettukovali... Vallaki udedi em ledu 

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14 hours ago, Sunny@CBN said:

"Mounting battlefield losses and crippling Western sanctions on the Russian economy could be pushing Putin to seek a face-saving end to the conflict." AL-JAZEERA

By the way the west is also supporting Ukraine with missiles and anti-tanks. Russia may not be able to continue the war for long.

Even if west supports Ukraine with anti-tanks Russians has more capability to do war.....now since it has been long enough and there is some collateral damage to Russia side as well if they back off they will become jokers .....my guess is they will get more aggressive and make Ukraine surrender with even more demands to stop the war......just now I am seeing they put icj order in trash bin with out even caring for it .....

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Russia says post-1991 'illusions' about the West are over

Lavrov, President Vladimir Putin's foreign minister since 2004, said the West's reaction to what Moscow has called a "special military operation" had illustrated that the West was completely dominated by the United States and that the European Union was largely powerless.

"If there was any illusion that we could one day rely on our Western partners, this illusion is no longer there," Lavrov told Russian state-funded RT in English.

Russia would look eastwards, he said.

"What the Americans want is a unipolar world which would not be like a global village but like an American village - or maybe like a saloon where you know the strongest calls the shots," Lavrov said.

He added that many countries such as China, India and Brazil did not want to be ordered around by "Uncle Sam" acting like a sheriff.

Lavrov's defiant response to the West's effort to isolate his country echoed that of Putin, who has indicated in recent days that the post-1991 era of Russian history has drawn to a close and that from now on Moscow will look to China, India and, increasingly, inwards.

"We will now have to rely only on ourselves and on our allies who stay with us," Lavrov said. "We are not closing the door on the West - they are doing so."

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(So what is it ?  This particular moment had no direct bearings of the root problem as an event, but as a major factor it is contributing &  exacerbating this tension in the world.  A few words uttered by an outgoing popular president and ex supreme commander of Allied forces, and first supreme commander of NATO. On Jan. 17, 1961, President Dwight Eisenhower gave the nation a dire warning about what he described as a threat to democratic government. He called it the military-industrial complex, a formidable union of defense contractors and the armed forces.)


"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.

The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."

 

 

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మిలిటరీ ఇండస్ట్రియల్ కాంప్లెక్స్ -  ఇది ఒక కల్పవృక్షం 

నాటో - ఒక  కామధేనువు .....సోవియెట్ / కమ్యూనిజం పోయిన తరువాత నాటో అవసరం లేదు....మరి ఇంకా ఎందుకుంది ?

దేవుడు ప్రత్యక్షం అయ్యి నీకు ఆకలి డప్పులుండవ్ ఇకనుంచి , నీకిచ్చిన కామధేనువు తీసుకెళ్తా అంటే, స్వామీ !  స్వీట్ షాప్ లు పెట్టుకుంటా, బిజినెస్ ఎంపైర్ తయారు చేసుకొంటా, ఉంచు స్వామీ ....ప్లీజ్ ప్లీజ్ ...

మనిషి లో దురాశ - భూతం లాగ పెరుగుతుంది,  రాక్షస కృత్యాలు చేయిస్తది...

(సమస్యల్ని అంచుల్లో కాక అంతరాల్లో చూడాలి పరిష్కారం కై ....మూలాల్లో నిర్ములించాలంటే  )

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Russia Allegedly Presents More Evidence of US Biolab Research in Ukraine at UN Security Council Meeting 

The Russian Ambassador to the UN Security Council Vassily Nebenzia  charged that a “US-implemented program” of biological research in Ukraine may have triggered “uncontrolled dangerous infections in Ukraine”, including rubella, diphtheria, tuberculosis, measles, polio, and swine flu during his speech last week.   Nebenzia added, “By March 2016, a total of 364 people died of swine flu in Ukraine.”

“While the US itself shut down military-purpose biological research on its territory due to high risks it posed to American population, the Kiev authorities actually agreed to turn their country into a biological testing site and have their citizens used as potential test subjects,” Nebenzia charged. Materials confiscated by the Russian Defense Ministry “prove that all serious high-risk research in Ukrainian biolabs was directly supervised by US experts who had diplomatic immunity,” Nebenzia claimed.

Citing the P781 project that was studied, the Russians alleged that the US was experimenting with the “transmission to humans of diseases through bats…6 families of viruses were identified including Coronaviruses…”

The US responded,  “This is malarkey, there are no biological weapons programs in Ukraine, this is a dark conspiracy theory.”

 (News excerpt)

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So far:

-Biden begging Maduro for oil
-The US wants nuclear deal back, UK pays debt, just to get Iranian oil on the market
-Saudis considering selling oil to China in Yuan, not USD
-India buying Russian oil in rupees. Pakistan and EU buy as usual

Not looking great for the US

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15 minutes ago, kurnool NTR said:

So far:

-Biden begging Maduro for oil
-The US wants nuclear deal back, UK pays debt, just to get Iranian oil on the market
-Saudis considering selling oil to China in Yuan, not USD
-India buying Russian oil in rupees. Pakistan and EU buy as usual

Not looking great for the US

On point brother, also let me add a bit to that saudi issue...

"  Saudis considering selling oil to China in Yuan, not USD "

Ever since Biden admin. started, they snubbed Saudi Arabia & insulted MBS (undiplomatic) to a point, where MBS is not taking the phone calls of US president.

Self destruction, it defies logic.

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On 3/17/2022 at 2:40 PM, Sunny@CBN said:

Brother, what did we do --------------------------------------------

What is the second key point to go with the other one mentioned earlier, which is also not an event directly related to this current imbroglio for West, but this following move certainly helped US in cold war era, that has some offering to current situation.


US president Nixon acted smart strategically in early 70s, luring China away from the possibility of it getting close to Soviet Russia, by improving relations between US and China significantly to next level.

After Soviet fall, Russia never has been in a position to challenge US, leave aside capability, but also by the vast difference in economy size.  With changing scenario of China becoming an economic behemoth, a wise act would have been pulling Russia in to US corner away from China. 


The current political class & establishment did exactly opposite, made unnecessary(ofcourse greed by elite class)animosity with Russia and pushed them in to the China's corner.  Think about it ! Hope you get an idea of this current proxy war of US through Ukraine, which is not only unwanted and unwise too...

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5 hours ago, kurnool NTR said:

So far:

-Biden begging Maduro for oil
-The US wants nuclear deal back, UK pays debt, just to get Iranian oil on the market
-Saudis considering selling oil to China in Yuan, not USD
-India buying Russian oil in rupees. Pakistan and EU buy as usual

Not looking great for the US

Using SWIFT and other usa companies shutting down operations..... For diplomatic blackmail..... Very wrong steps from west... 

This doesnt isolate just russia only, but all other major nations which are not part of NATO......obviously now all these nations will rethink.. Wat if we are also made to face similar blackmail from west...!! 

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On 3/18/2022 at 1:10 AM, Sunny@CBN said:

"Brother, what did we do to stop Russia."  "Sending medicines is a big deal?" We were selfish from day1. We wanted our students back, we want cheap oil now.

Someone posted earlier that Ukrainians deserve it for wanting to be a part of NATO. This makes me feel sad. When the war started I also supported Russia but not at present.

Maybe Im spineless but that is me. I don't have this shrewd character like that of  Gujju mafia to taking advantage of such crisis. (Penta meeda dabbulu erukune type)

1) What did USA or the EU do?

2) Yes sending medicines is much better than selling weapons and trying to live off like a parasite on a dying nation.

 

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