PP SIMHA Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 ante ippudu software development methodologies, principles of programming gurinchi cheppatam ante koncham kastam........... aepudina weekend kaali ga vunte phone kottu.......detailed ga oka 2 gantalu discudam.............. attage kaani ,
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 gaali ki balance tappi kinda padi accident ani chepthunnav anta aendi................ Avunu baaa ade jarigindiiii
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 1000 isthe truck licence kuda istharu... :brakelamp: Nenu sonthagaa Car nadipi thchukunnaa licensee
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 readability Inthaki nuvvu ela unanvu baaa, not coming to online alsooo :dream:
Tendulkar Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 sare nenu inka sleeping.bye gud nite and good day
PP SIMHA Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 readability ok, ardam ayindi, let me give u an example , write the data into a txt file from a database and then delete it . let us take approaches , 1. u can use vb.net or c# to load delete , 2. use any ETL tools to that 3. if windows OS , we can even use bat files ( old style of scripting) 4. power shell scripting just like shell scripting ( newly introduced by microsoft in 2008) all the 1st 3 above would need atleast 100 lines of code to write , but my 4th step can do that in 15 lines and 5 mins i would opt 4th , any coding language can be read by any 1 , if n only if they understand the languge else they shuld know it or learn it or have to skip it, it is not my fault if they cant understand that
Gunner Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Inthaki nuvvu ela unanvu baaa, not coming to online alsooo :dream: nenu bane vunna baa..............nuvvu fully recovered aa......... aa....FB lo appear offline mode lo vuntunna max..........nuvvu FB lo online vunapudu mssg kottu respond avutha...........
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 nenu bane vunna baa..............nuvvu fully recovered aa......... aa....FB lo appear offline mode lo vuntunna max..........nuvvu FB lo online vunapudu mssg kottu respond avutha........... Haa baa ippudu full recover...going to office from 2 weeks...repu mor untavaa online lo after 7 IST ?
K D No.1 Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 ok, ardam ayindi, let me give u an example , write the data into a txt file from a database and then delete it . let us take approaches , 1. u can use vb.net or c# to load delete , 2. use any ETL tools to that 3. if windows OS , we can even use bat files ( old style of scripting) 4. power shell scripting just like shell scripting ( newly introduced by microsoft in 2008) all the 1st 3 above would need atleast 100 lines of code to write , but my 4th step can do that in 15 lines and 5 mins i would opt 4th , any coding language can be read by any 1 , if n only if they understand the languge else they shuld know it or learn it or have to skip it, it is not my fault if they cant understand that
PP SIMHA Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 baga seppana bavay vomerica lo attaga lekapothe jwab nilukodam sana kattamuuu kadaaa
K D No.1 Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Haa baa ippudu full recover...going to office from 2 weeks...repu mor untavaa online lo after 7 IST ? kuplee gaa... priya pune vachindi antaga neeku accident ayindani telsii .. true love meeedi
K D No.1 Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 baga seppana bavay vomerica lo attaga lekapothe jwab nilukodam sana kattamuuu kadaaa simpi aaresaav bammardee
Gunner Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 ok, ardam ayindi, let me give u an example , write the data into a txt file from a database and then delete it . let us take approaches , 1. u can use vb.net or c# to load delete , 2. use any ETL tools to that 3. if windows OS , we can even use bat files ( old style of scripting) 4. power shell scripting just like shell scripting ( newly introduced by microsoft in 2008) all the 1st 3 above would need atleast 100 lines of code to write , but my 4th step can do that in 15 lines and 5 mins i would opt 4th , any coding language can be read by any 1 , if n only if they understand the languge else they shuld know it or learn it or have to skip it, it is not my fault if they cant understand that most of the companies maintain CoE (Center of Excellence) which would drive what tech to be used for what purpose....... most often, developer will not have freedom to write code in a language he likes......he has to code in the language which is determined by architects.... No one allow a developer to write code in a language which is difficult to maintain....in the other words, no one would like to develop a software which costs them more to maintain............ it is not the LOC (Lines of Code) which determines the quality......it is the performance, cost to maintenance, simplicity..........
Sinna.Sinna Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 ok, ardam ayindi, let me give u an example , write the data into a txt file from a database and then delete it . let us take approaches , 1. u can use vb.net or c# to load delete , 2. use any ETL tools to that 3. if windows OS , we can even use bat files ( old style of scripting) 4. power shell scripting just like shell scripting ( newly introduced by microsoft in 2008) all the 1st 3 above would need atleast 100 lines of code to write , but my 4th step can do that in 15 lines and 5 mins i would opt 4th , any coding language can be read by any 1 , if n only if they understand the languge else they shuld know it or learn it or have to skip it, it is not my fault if they cant understand that
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 sare nenu inka sleeping.bye gud nite and good day Byee kuttii......etu tirakkuu :wave:
PP SIMHA Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 most of the companies maintain CoE (Center of Excellence) which would drive what tech to be used for what purpose....... most often, developer will not have freedom to write code in a language he likes......he has to code in the language which is determined by architects.... No one allow a developer to write code in a language which is difficult to maintain....in the other words, no one would like to develop a software which costs them more to maintain............ it is not the LOC (Lines of Code) which determines the quality......it is the performance, cost to maintain, simplicity.......... e language lo rayaloo kuda ale deciding setharaaa ayitheee , manaki videa ledu , vomerica loo ne choiceuu , they affreciate talentuu very muchuu , by the by performanceuu bagokunda rasthe manalni ficholu antru, adi baguntene ratham vancvle
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 kuplee gaa... priya pune vachindi antaga neeku accident ayindani telsii .. true love meeedi Gaali baa, topic naaa midaki thippavendi..Priya ledu miya leduu..asale pull kastallo untee..malli ee thippalu nakoddu
K D No.1 Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Gaali baa, topic naaa midaki thippavendi..Priya ledu miya leduu..asale pull kastallo untee..malli ee thippalu nakoddu miya evaru.. kotha sarukaa
PP SIMHA Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 bhaiarav , all the bat files are being moved to powershell and its a project @ our bank which we r going to implement , they only knew when i started using that , appatlo nenu rasindi veru small piece of code but ippudu chana nersukoni rayalsi vachetatu undii
Gunner Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 e language lo rayaloo kuda ale deciding setharaaa ayitheee , manaki videa ledu , vomerica loo ne choiceuu , they affreciate talentuu very muchuu , by the by performanceuu bagokunda rasthe manalni ficholu antru, adi baguntene ratham vancvle I bet it is not common across all installations............. I agree, if you have option of choosing between pre-approved 'can be used' languages, yes, you can chose the language you are comfortable with............. otherwise, sorry, you are simply not allowed to........
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 miya evaru.. kotha sarukaa Nenu edo flow lo annaa, danni kudaa laguthunnavaa
PP SIMHA Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I bet it is not common across all installations............. I agree, if you have option of choosing between pre-approved 'can be used' languages, yes, you can chose the language you are comfortable with............. otherwise, sorry, you are simply not allowed to........ bhiarav , y cant we treat this as a kind of bossism by companies or leads or architects ??? (vere vidham ga kadhu na bavam niku ardam ayindanukuntanaa) if ur comfortable with process x than y for same purpose and efficient and time saving , y cant we opt that ? ardam ayindaa ? generalize ga aduguthunanu
Gunner Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 bhaiarav , all the bat files are being moved to powershell and its a project @ our bank which we r going to implement , they only knew when i started using that , appatlo nenu rasindi veru small piece of code but ippudu chana nersukoni rayalsi vachetatu undii good PP.......neeku manchi learning ga aithe......... ya, .bat is too old to maintain........it costs more to maintain than converting them to power shell scripts.......... if possible, try to work with your CoE PP....it will be a really good learning curve.........I personally enjoyed very much, though a short stint, working with boa CoE........
KaNTRhi Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I bet it is not common across all installations............. I agree, if you have option of choosing between pre-approved 'can be used' languages, yes, you can chose the language you are comfortable with............. otherwise, sorry, you are simply not allowed to........ Bhairava baa, repu mor online lo untavaaa or sat matadamaaa ???? :dream:
Gunner Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 bhiarav , y cant we treat this as a kind of bossism by companies or leads or architects ??? (vere vidham ga kadhu na bavam niku ardam ayindanukuntanaa) if ur comfortable with process x than y for same purpose and efficient and time saving , y cant we opt that ? ardam ayindaa ? generalize ga aduguthunanu ardam aiindi......... adi bossism kadu PP....... example cheptha vinu - oka problem vundi, and it is determined that solution can be developed using two tech - A and B (for simplicity assume both are equally good) a resource with A skills costs $50/hr resource with B skills costs $40/hr if you are the CTO or Architect, which tech you use? or, do you ask your dev to chose? adi vallaki ayye costs ni batti vuntundi PP.....just being advance, they can't buy-in a tech.......because, adv tech come with more costs..........
Gunner Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Bhairava baa, repu mor online lo untavaaa or sat matadamaaa ???? :dream: repu vuntanu baa........
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