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Edi konta machi bille,  

China vaadu india lo mobiles ammukovacchu gaani, kurool lo mokka jonna pandiche vaadu pakkena vunna karnataka lo ammukoledu. 

Till now

a) A farmer can not sold his farm output in other states. 

b A farmer can not store beyond a limit. 

c) A miller cannot mill beyond a limit. 

d) minmum support price is decided by the state GOVT and state GOVT purchases from farmer in yard. 

EE rules valla, farmers ki price radu, endukante state GOVTs valla free schemes ki procurement kosam farmers ki price rakunda addukontunnai. 

 

Farmers ultimately will get benifit. 

 

 

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Nijaniki YCP GOVT  ki  edi pedda debba,  A.P GOVT is going to loose control on A.P agri produce. 

Anduke state GOVTs edustunnai. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, bharath_k said:

 

Edi konta machi bille,  

China vaadu india lo mobiles ammukovacchu gaani, kurool lo mokka jonna pandiche vaadu pakkena vunna karnataka lo ammukoledu. 

Till now

a) A farmer can not sold his farm output in other states. 

b A farmer can not store beyond a limit. 

c) A miller cannot mill beyond a limit. 

d) minmum support price is decided by the state GOVT and state GOVT purchases from farmer in yard. 

EE rules valla, farmers ki price radu, endukante state GOVTs valla free schemes ki procurement kosam farmers ki price rakunda addukontunnai. 

 

Farmers ultimately will get benifit. 

 

 

Sorry bro I may not agree this.  Mediators perigi potaru. No control on prices.  May  be farming lo kuda mono poly avtundi.  Vademi chepte ade pandinchali. Chinna chinna formers it's not easy to transport and sell their products.  

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27 minutes ago, Suresh_Ongole said:

Sorry bro I may not agree this.  Mediators perigi potaru. No control on prices.  May  be farming lo kuda mono poly avtundi.  Vademi chepte ade pandinchali. Chinna chinna formers it's not easy to transport and sell their products.  

 

Eppudu pedda mediator evaru.. state GOVT kada. 

Nenu free market lo  ammukonte , naaku better price vastundi kaani.... stage GOVT control cheste better price vastunda. 

Naaku telisi mediators taggutaru kani peragaru. 

 

Karnataka lo pandinche danni andhra lo ammukolenu.   andhra lo pandiche danni tamilnadu lo ammukolenu. 

EE state GOVts valla swardham kosam, raitulanu looty chestunnai. 

 

Thailand lo oka farmer A.P kante takkuva pettubadi pedutunnadu, A.P kante double rate ammukontunnadu. 

South korea, japan, israel  lo farmers happy ga vunnaru, endukante vallaki better price vastundi, ee regulation levu. 

Ekkada state GOVTs chestunadenti, meeku vittanalu, fertilizers subsidy ki estunnam ani cheppi, chivaraku raitulaki price rakunda, vallani bali chetunnai. 

 

eppudo elanti bill pass chesi vundalasindi. 

 

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As a farmer, maaku kavalasindi price, maa kastaniki pratifalam. 

naa dagga corporate kontunda, modi kontada,  srilanka vaadu kontada anedi secondary. 

roadlu emmata tirigi Gundu soodulu ammukonte vaadiki leni restrictions, raitulapi enduku. 

 

Nannu adigite, Agri output meeda export regulations kooda teesaiyyali. ( I mean export to other countrys )

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29 minutes ago, bharath_k said:

 

Eppudu pedda mediator evaru.. state GOVT kada. 

Nenu free market lo  ammukonte , naaku better price vastundi kaani.... stage GOVT control cheste better price vastunda. 

Naaku telisi mediators taggutaru kani peragaru. 

 

Karnataka lo pandinche danni andhra lo ammukolenu.   andhra lo pandiche danni tamilnadu lo ammukolenu. 

EE state GOVts valla swardham kosam, raitulanu looty chestunnai. 

 

Thailand lo oka farmer A.P kante takkuva pettubadi pedutunnadu, A.P kante double rate ammukontunnadu. 

South korea, japan, israel  lo farmers happy ga vunnaru, endukante vallaki better price vastundi, ee regulation levu. 

Ekkada state GOVTs chestunadenti, meeku vittanalu, fertilizers subsidy ki estunnam ani cheppi, chivaraku raitulaki price rakunda, vallani bali chetunnai. 

 

eppudo elanti bill pass chesi vundalasindi. 

 

You are not caching my point.  Former can sell their products is good but govt should give minimum price and procure minimum production otherwise it's not easy small formers. They have to go with millers or mediators. 

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1 hour ago, bharath_k said:

 

Edi konta machi bille,  

China vaadu india lo mobiles ammukovacchu gaani, kurool lo mokka jonna pandiche vaadu pakkena vunna karnataka lo ammukoledu. 

Till now

a) A farmer can not sold his farm output in other states. 

b A farmer can not store beyond a limit. 

c) A miller cannot mill beyond a limit. 

d) minmum support price is decided by the state GOVT and state GOVT purchases from farmer in yard. 

EE rules valla, farmers ki price radu, endukante state GOVTs valla free schemes ki procurement kosam farmers ki price rakunda addukontunnai. 

 

Farmers ultimately will get benifit. 

 

 

emo swamy ... demonetisation, mana state ki ivvalsina haamilu etc., lanti shocks tho eedi manchi bill oh edi chedda bill lo telchukoleni dilemma lo vunnaa...

demonetization appudu nenu mamuluga support cheyyaledu... a taravatha ma shop jaragatam taggu mukham pattindi aa year appudu clarity vachindi..dani valla entha loss a ani..

bill pass chesinapudu anni bagane vuntaayi... taravatha daani venaka loop holes telusthaayi appati varaku manam support chestaam aa taravatha telustundi manaki ela bokka padindo ani..

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1 hour ago, bharath_k said:

 

Eppudu pedda mediator evaru.. state GOVT kada. 

Nenu free market lo  ammukonte , naaku better price vastundi kaani.... stage GOVT control cheste better price vastunda. 

Naaku telisi mediators taggutaru kani peragaru. 

 

Karnataka lo pandinche danni andhra lo ammukolenu.   andhra lo pandiche danni tamilnadu lo ammukolenu. 

EE state GOVts valla swardham kosam, raitulanu looty chestunnai. 

 

Thailand lo oka farmer A.P kante takkuva pettubadi pedutunnadu, A.P kante double rate ammukontunnadu. 

South korea, japan, israel  lo farmers happy ga vunnaru, endukante vallaki better price vastundi, ee regulation levu. 

Ekkada state GOVTs chestunadenti, meeku vittanalu, fertilizers subsidy ki estunnam ani cheppi, chivaraku raitulaki price rakunda, vallani bali chetunnai. 

 

eppudo elanti bill pass chesi vundalasindi. 

 

evvaru chepparu brother..?

ippudu kuda farmers can choose to whom they want to sell..meeru cheppina anni points already chestunnaru eppati nundo chala varaku..

pakka state vallaku ammukovachu i think... its not a problem..

 

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Just now, ChiefMinister said:

evvaru chepparu brother..?

ippudu kuda farmers can choose to whom they want to sell..meeru cheppina anni points already chestunnaru eppati nundo chala varaku..

pakka state vallaku ammukovachu i think... its not a problem..

 

 

GST vachina taruvata konta relax aiyyindi gaani, antaku mundu adi ledu boss. It has to go through mediators and permits.

Now also state GOVT has power to block, if they think so. 

 

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10 minutes ago, bharath_k said:

 

GST vachina taruvata konta relax aiyyindi gaani, antaku mundu adi ledu boss. It has to go through mediators and permits.

Now also state GOVT has power to block, if they think so. 

 

north india lo pande apples nenu chinnapudey i mean 20 years back ee nellore lo tiney vadini  bro.. appatlo gst, etc. ,rules levu..

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KURNOOL: Highlighting his demand that farmers be allowed to sell their produce at any place where they could get a remunerative price, Lok Satta president Jayaprakash Narayan on Sunday took out a padayatra to Gilka Sugurcamp in Karnataka and publicly auctioned the rice produced by AP farmers at a record price, thereby defying the state government regulations against doing so.

A Ramalakshmi of Bengaluru bought the rice at a whopping Rs 1 lakh for five quintals in the auction. Though the high price realised was due to some keen contest during the bidding, the normal price of the rice at Emmiganur in AP is about `2,100 per quintal as against `2,400 in Karnataka.

Jayaprakash, who went to Gilka Sugurcamp on foot from Emmiganur, said they had just made a beginning and soon they would go to Maharashtra, Orissa and Tamil Nadu and sell the agricultural produce belonging to farmers from Adilabad, Srikakulam and Chittoor areas respectively. He even dared the government to try and stop him. The government should either pay a remunerative price to the farmer or abolish restrictions on export of agricultural produce, he said.

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12 minutes ago, bharath_k said:

KURNOOL: Highlighting his demand that farmers be allowed to sell their produce at any place where they could get a remunerative price, Lok Satta president Jayaprakash Narayan on Sunday took out a padayatra to Gilka Sugurcamp in Karnataka and publicly auctioned the rice produced by AP farmers at a record price, thereby defying the state government regulations against doing so.

A Ramalakshmi of Bengaluru bought the rice at a whopping Rs 1 lakh for five quintals in the auction. Though the high price realised was due to some keen contest during the bidding, the normal price of the rice at Emmiganur in AP is about `2,100 per quintal as against `2,400 in Karnataka.

Jayaprakash, who went to Gilka Sugurcamp on foot from Emmiganur, said they had just made a beginning and soon they would go to Maharashtra, Orissa and Tamil Nadu and sell the agricultural produce belonging to farmers from Adilabad, Srikakulam and Chittoor areas respectively. He even dared the government to try and stop him. The government should either pay a remunerative price to the farmer or abolish restrictions on export of agricultural produce, he said.

if some thing good is happening i am also happy for famers...

Farming direct ga chesi amme valle they can answer these questions clearly..... .

anni restrictions vunnappudu apples, mangoes, nagpur oranges etc, ela vachevi mana andhra ki..? market lo..? this is 20 or 30 years back...

state to state rate lo difference vundachu.....but there is no limitation i think...

very simple digital transactions ni improve cheyyataniki demonetization chesam antaaru .. but before demonetization also digital transactions were going on.. but after demonetization it started at huge... there was a spike... anthey ... 

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So you think taking the produce interstate and selling that is that easy? Try bringing 50 bags of rice from TG to AP and see how you will be stopped.
 

a farmer has to pay “anyamyas” to officers in his state and other state! 
 

only brokers will benefit from this. Let’s say, you black green gram in AP, a broker can now freely go and sell that in TN when there is shortage in TN for green gram. 
 

EOD states are going to lose their incomes. GST lo loss ayyayi states.... eppudu Agri back bone income kooda fasak! 
 

B O D I for a reason!

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Antey vehicle rent ki techukoni..... diesel (high cost) kottinchukoni..... Dari lo tolls katti..... pakka state ki velli.... akkada ammukuntaadaaa ? Intha effort petti vellinaaa gittubaatu dhara vastundi ani guarantee undhaaa ? Think practically!  Don’t just limit to Anantapur to Bangalore or chittoor to Chennai or khammam to BZA! Border villages will have a advantage for sure! No debate in that!

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11 minutes ago, sskmaestro said:

Antey vehicle rent ki techukoni..... diesel (high cost) kottinchukoni..... Dari lo tolls katti..... pakka state ki velli.... akkada ammukuntaadaaa ? Intha effort petti vellinaaa gittubaatu dhara vastundi ani guarantee undhaaa ? Think practically!  Don’t just limit to Anantapur to Bangalore or chittoor to Chennai or khammam to BZA! Border villages will have a advantage for sure! No debate in that!

 

My point is , here state GOVT is the looter.  { forget minimum support price for some time, this is another topic } 

(1) State GOVT is imposing the restrictions, where they want to procure rice for their free rice scheme,

they restrict export to other states, kill the price and purchase the rice at cheaper cost, which they utilize to purchase votes. 

They are doing this from last 50 years. 

(2)  you are worrying about the state GOVT income,  then why the hell the farmer should loose here. 

state GOVT chese yedava paniki farmer anevaadu suffer avva koodadu. 

(3)  Broker hirarchy eppatikina vuntundi, atleast e bill valla state GOVT ane oka broker taggutadu. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, bharath_k said:

 

My point is , here state GOVT is the looter.  { forget minimum support price for some time, this is another topic } 

(1) State GOVT is imposing the restrictions, where they want to procure rice for their free rice scheme,

they restrict export to other states, kill the price and purchase the rice at cheaper cost, which they utilize to purchase votes. 

They are doing this from last 50 years. 

(2)  you are worrying about the state GOVT income,  then why the hell the farmer should loose here. 

state GOVT chese yedava paniki farmer anevaadu suffer avva koodadu. 

(3)  Broker hirarchy eppatikina vuntundi, atleast e bill valla state GOVT ane oka broker taggutadu. 

 

 

State govt aney broker ni evaru eliminate cheyyaleru.... do you really think a normal farmer will take the produce across state and sell ?

 

lets take this example - pakka states nunchi vachevaati meeda taxes ekkuva estaaru to make sure their farmers are not at loss!

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2 minutes ago, sskmaestro said:

State govt aney broker ni evaru eliminate cheyyaleru.... do you really think a normal farmer will take the produce across state and sell ?

 

lets take this example - pakka states nunchi vachevaati meeda taxes ekkuva estaaru to make sure their farmers are not at loss!

 

Now only on liquor and fuel , nothing else you can tax as per GST. 

 

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3 minutes ago, sskmaestro said:

State govt aney broker ni evaru eliminate cheyyaleru.... do you really think a normal farmer will take the produce across state and sell ?

 

lets take this example - pakka states nunchi vachevaati meeda taxes ekkuva estaaru to make sure their farmers are not at loss!

choddam atleast border areas lo farmers anna benifit avvutaru kada. 

 

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IMO, this bill is inevitable. In all developed countries agriculture is a part of commodities business. The bill is removing the trade barriers. 

Though I like the intent behind the bill, I doubt Modi's capability of proper implementation. In the end they will subvert into another money grabbing oppurtunity for gujju's. 

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6 hours ago, bharath_k said:

 

Edi konta machi bille,  

China vaadu india lo mobiles ammukovacchu gaani, kurool lo mokka jonna pandiche vaadu pakkena vunna karnataka lo ammukoledu. 

Till now

a) A farmer can not sold his farm output in other states. 

b A farmer can not store beyond a limit. 

c) A miller cannot mill beyond a limit. 

d) minmum support price is decided by the state GOVT and state GOVT purchases from farmer in yard. 

EE rules valla, farmers ki price radu, endukante state GOVTs valla free schemes ki procurement kosam farmers ki price rakunda addukontunnai. 

 

Farmers ultimately will get benifit. 

 

 

Just discussed same issue with my father his concern is how will a common farmers sell in another state market without knowing anybody there or language again he will depend on middle man for it.

where will farmer store his goods if number of storages are limited and if rich person hoarding certain food products and it will lead to inflation of prices as we are removing it.

 

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24 minutes ago, abhi said:

Just discussed same issue with my father his concern is how will a common farmers sell in another state market without knowing anybody there or language again he will depend on middle man for it.

where will farmer store his goods if number of storages are limited and if rich person hoarding certain food products and it will lead to inflation of prices as we are removing it.

 

 

5 to 10% farmers bayata ammina gani, local gaa commodity ki demand peruguddi. 

Danivalla , eppudu vacche price kante better gane price vastadi. 

stock market lo 1% stock trade aite chalu, aa company remaing 99% stock ki deamnd vastadi. 

evadina okka roje 2% stock ammite chalu, aa company remaining 98% stock value half avvuddi.  Hope you got it. 

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1)Farmers can't sell beyond boundaries anedi myth. All you need is to pay just 1% extra APMC cess in both states if you cross border 

Now in this Bill, all farmer is gaining a piece of cake in that extra 1% 

2) MSP is not applicable if farmer and buyer accept at below MSP rate

This is quite bad as farmers is loosing MSP argument and there exists no scenario in India where farmer can demand more. It's market that decides the price with 80% of times below MSP and 20% above MSP

This is big debate, even if MSP rule exsists farmer won't get it, if market demand is there he gets MSP else NO. 80% times he won't get but the point here is he is losing the argument of MSP.

3) Stock limit vanished. 

This is  quite bad for farmers as till now globally MNC could not operate in this segment.They follow strict legal rules.

Till now Local Marwadi/Baniya/ agro processor stocked the goods in season for better price in Un-season, their financial pocket is limited, but now the limits are vanished for MNC who have too deep pockets. So they decide the price and and it will always be lower as much as possible.

So net gain some portion of 1% market cess is gained by farmers

Losing MSP argument

MNC stocking of commodities during season will lead to throw aways prices for farmer.

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