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ఆంధ్రా కోసం తెలుగుదేశం అవసరం వుంది.

చంద్రబాబు గారి ఆయుస్షు పూర్తిగా వాడుకొనే హక్కును ఆంధ్రా కోసం తీసుకొందాం. 

గతం వదిలి వర్తమానంలోకి రండి. 

ప్రస్తుత గ్రౌండ్ రియాలిటీకి తగ్గట్టు సలహాలు సూచనలు ఇవ్వగలరు. 

బావున్నవి చేరవేసే బాధ్యత తీసుకొంటాను. 

క్లుప్తంగా ఆచరించ తగ్గది, ఒకటికి రెండు సార్లు ఆలోచించి సమయం తీసుకొని మీ ఆలొచనలు తెలుపగలరు.

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great initiation bro..

more than what need to be done, biggest failure is - not able to sense this much huge anti against party (is it genuine or imposed etc is later..). forget about failure of taking schemes into people etc all. first is getting the reality form ground is more important. i'm still not sure if party predicted this much huge magnitude. something need to be done to estimate this a bit more accurately.

next level leadership is not good.. MLAs are behaving like dummies.. need to be more vocal, and what they tal kshould be convincing to common man. In a way we need good HR kind of skills in handling media. most of our guys live in their own world and do their works (good or bad) and rely on CBN during election.. need strong 2nd level leaders.. i feel pity when i see CBN has to comeout to defend silly issues like sharmila issue, morphed pics.. etc..

another one is, CBN always plans for long term and spends huge amount there.. most of the people need instant gratification.. doing long term dev. is good, but that wont give votes always... try to spend amount generously on short term and project them more.

cader will not just stick with you for years w/o anything.. local leaders to handle this, need to be generous towards them. somehow this need to be taken care at local level..

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2 hours ago, pavan s said:

great initiation bro..

more than what need to be done, biggest failure is - not able to sense this much huge anti against party (is it genuine or imposed etc is later..). forget about failure of taking schemes into people etc all. first is getting the reality form ground is more important. i'm still not sure if party predicted this much huge magnitude. something need to be done to estimate this a bit more accurately.

next level leadership is not good.. MLAs are behaving like dummies.. need to be more vocal, and what they tal kshould be convincing to common man. In a way we need good HR kind of skills in handling media. most of our guys live in their own world and do their works (good or bad) and rely on CBN during election.. need strong 2nd level leaders.. i feel pity when i see CBN has to comeout to defend silly issues like sharmila issue, morphed pics.. etc..

another one is, CBN always plans for long term and spends huge amount there.. most of the people need instant gratification.. doing long term dev. is good, but that wont give votes always... try to spend amount generously on short term and project them more.

cader will not just stick with you for years w/o anything.. local leaders to handle this, need to be generous towards them. somehow this need to be taken care at local level..

Correct analysis brother, need intelligent strategy team to counter Jagan, please change TDP spokespersons , sm and media management team. Media and news papers message to very important to common man , if one news spread wrong things about TDP,  people attract that viral videos. Be careful to TDP mlas and spokespersons. Yesterday I was watched Sai debate I felt very bad about TDP spokespersons, he is targetting him, he cannot response properly, other panels laughing at him. This is situation TDP spokespersons.

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The youth are disconnected with CBN and TDP and more getting inclined towards Jagan and Pawan. Youth were always supportive when CBN in power, but not now. They supported TDP because of PK last time. Need to find a way to get connected with them, somehow.

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Thanks for the responses ... suggestions document cheyyagaligelaa,  practicality ga implement chese la vundeela choodandi. criticism & postmortem avoid cheyyandi. Think on ground cadre point of view & social media point of view and neutral point of view and add more.  

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Main problem is ysrcp has formidable vote bank in the form of reddy, sc/st (Christians), muslims and any other converted Christians. CBN garu should somehow find a viable solution. There are lot of disgruntled youth and all kinds of people how are suffering due to forced conversions and loud speakers used by churches through out the night in villages and small towns. One alternative is for TDP to support and protect Hindus from this conversions. This I think is the only way to sustain TDP party in the long run. 

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56 minutes ago, Cyclist said:

Thanks for the responses ... suggestions document cheyyagaligelaa,  practicality ga implement chese la vundeela choodandi. criticism & postmortem avoid cheyyandi. Think on ground cadre point of view & social media point of view and neutral point of view and add more.  

One major thing to overhaul is:

1. When in Power or Opposition it is always CBN who has to work politically. It works very well when opposition, since he can concentrate more on Political and party. But doesn't work when in Power

2. Most of the times it seems we are working only for cadre, not for public. Reduce the involvement of just cadre in may programs, but involve common public.

3. For every constituency or mandal, need someone who can look at things as a third party and should be able to give genuine feedback and it should reach the Leader.

4. Leader need to start Micro level management, not at constituency. Make the reviews to at least each mandal level. There are around 600 mandals. Work regularly with them. Again it works when in opposition, but leader ignores when in Power.

5. Closely identify things/views that affect neutral voters. 

6. And please do not make so many u-turns. Leader goes extreme in either opposing or praising. Take time in responding for somethings, but for others be decisive. 

7. Cut short speeches to 20 minutes.

8. Come up with Mandal wise issues and focus on them. People no longer interested in State level issues. There will always be most common individual issues and target those issues across state.

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we need to be rigorous in selecting and encouraging local leaders in village/mandal level. if we encourage useless guys as local leaders whatever the good work done by party will  not  be helpful. we need third party in assessing party activities at village level and give feedback to party.  micromanaging won't be helpful . its duty of top leader to take right(qualitative) decisions and delegate work to right people. if he continue micromanaging everything, party leaders think cbn will take care everything and get relax. my sincere request to cbn is not to overburden himself by working too much . he needs to take care his health and guide party cadre.  

we need loyal and capable local leaders. my sincere suggestion is take help of  bharath(vizag mp candidate) in rebuilding/restructuring party . he is good at assessing people . we have to utilize his services in selecting local leaders in village/mandal/constituency level.

don't project lokesh as future leader. he has too much negative among youth. 

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1 minute ago, ravindras said:

we need to be rigorous in selecting and encouraging local leaders in village/mandal level. if we encourage useless guys as local leaders whatever the good work done by party will  not  be helpful. we need third party in assessing party activities at village level and give feedback to party.  micromanaging won't be helpful . its duty of top leader to take right(qualitative) decisions and delegate work to right people. if he continue micromanaging party leaders think cbn will take care everything and get relax. my sincere request to cbn is not to overburden himself by working too much . he needs to take care his health and guide party cadre.  

we need loyal and capable local leaders. my sincere suggestion is take help of  bharath(vizag mp candidate) in rebuilding/restructuring party . he is good at assessing people . we have to utilize his services in selecting local leaders in village/mandal/constituency level.

don't project lokesh as future leader. he has too much negative among youth. 

When I say micro managing means, getting the feedback at micro level ani. Making everyone part of it.

If not Lokesh, whom should he project. Youth not connecting to CBN any more except one caste :(

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Just now, Seniorfan said:

Lokesh has to do padayatra after 2 years.... for now do lot of data compilation.... booth level analysis of what has gone wrong...

Padayatra kadhu bro. Inka edo cheyali to establish himself as leader and to get rid off negativity around him. Would be very happy if Jr.NTR can come in and take it forward. But don't think he is interested anymore and CBN would not give it to Lokesh, but to Jr.

 

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Just now, Seniorfan said:

Reports reports....complete data pina koorchovali.... after chalk out a plan... how to target, whom to target.... etc... 

CBN cotary lo vunde jenam perlu cheppandi kastha. Eee Sujana, CM Ramesh all gone case.

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Rahul gandhi is way smarter than Modi. But he failed to tackle his negative image since 2009. It was too late by the time they realized that.

It is same with Lokesh. His image was already damaged through fake propaganda since 2015. TDP didn't address it. Like evadu pattinchukuntaadu le ani.

They need to work very hard building his image. He should be portrayed as an asset to CBN & TDP, not liability. Take his nice speeches and circulate them.

TV is no longer main stream media. Hire/Pay to some analysts who act as neutral but followed by people.

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3 minutes ago, ravikia said:

CBN cotary lo vunde jenam perlu cheppandi kastha. Eee Sujana, CM Ramesh all gone case.

Cyclist will pass on to Lokesh and to CBN... Sujana gaadu fine.... BJP govt. nundi raavaddu ani mottukonnadu.... appudu manam nammale.... heroism kavalani pattubatti vachhesam....

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@Cyclist brother, party is seriously lacking below 

1. MLAs are not good speakers (most of our spokespersons are not MLAs). This will have huge impact. People like RR are famous because of vocabulary skills which help them have more reach. 

2. Second level leaders evaru? go back to 99 regime, we are in power and we have a good team of second level leaders. 

3. Time to inject young blood (make sure we have “new” people and not just hereditary) 

4. Lack of aggressive media management 

5. Need new strategy to attract youth

 

TDP is not in a dire situation. We have 40% vote share. Generally, when a ruling party is ousted due to anti on government/party, your vote share will slide down drastically (15-20%), but TDP retained most of its traditional vote bank. We just have to “remodel” ourself and start with strong basics.

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1st thing i recommend this to be moved to a closed section like chat room or restrict political section to only verified people as the social media groups of all parties watch these and will definitely take advantage in every aspect, now with big data... every minute information counts... so Request to Kiran Bro or Admins to make politics section a verified section so that posts made will be only from trusted members and those will be rightly received by fellow members

 

1 - Deep analysis of how TDP was rooted out in both the regions in TG & AP... how is the party disconnected from voters, what are the weak points, how to get back the affiliation, brainstorm and analyze thoroughly, nothing wrong in accepting the failed steps or strategies... spend at least a year on this area what are the reasons for the vote shift and observing the patterns of voting to other parties or candidates....

2- at the same time engage  cadre/volunteers/low string leaders  in identifying the problems of the respective constituency from ward level every bit of the problem from all sections....find the root level problems...long term and short term.. prioritize and analyze how they can be addressed and monitor for next 3-4 yrs how they are handled, and ensure they are opened up and taken care with appropriate opposition pressure on these issues, not just politicizing, but work towards real goal

3 - identify the real peoples leaders.. like how NTR located them in 82,, no jumpers from other parties, no money power based candidate selection or industrial/business background candidates for legislation or Parliament seats... fund all candidates centrally from party office and operate them in working towards one goal of winning the election

4 - Protect all the cadre in best possible way,communicate with them weekly for even 30mins, meet them on regular basis like quarterly, take teh feedback on monthly basis on how opposition and ruling party were actively among people

5 - Never rule out any caste or community, come up with an equal agenda of showing same prominence of all castes religions and regions, Jagan made 5 CM deputys, though dummies, made all major communities happy, nothing to lose for him, but a big dent for TDP for sure

6 - Go with preparing the realistic promises in agenda, dont go with freebies, like scheme like CashTransfer or farmer loans waiver etc, these are all out dated, agenda to address real problems and issues, which should have proper ideology that people can connect and get motivated to vote, 2019 agenda was noteven well received or marketed with poor management and least cared agenda with too much of an arrogance

7- Identify 2-3 Major projects possibility for every district and work out on possibilities of setting them up with experts in those areas, visit those districts regularly and put a firm plan by involving people on the proposals and possibility and see what can be worked out and promise based on that if won back to power in 2024

8 - Dont make it a dynasty party, let it look like peoples party with proper Organizational structure and make major reforms wiht the party from tip to toe and let the process run the party and let people engage in party activities 

9- GO with progressive ideology rather than hating and blame game, unite all telugus, try to put them together and show them what can we achive if we all work towards single goal of progressiveness 

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32 minutes ago, ravikia said:

When I say micro managing means, getting the feedback at micro level ani. Making everyone part of it.

If not Lokesh, whom should he project. Youth not connecting to CBN any more except one caste :(

bharath/jr ntr

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8 minutes ago, Taraka Mantram said:

1st thing i recommend this to be moved to a closed section like chat room or restrict political section to only verified people as the social media groups of all parties watch these and will definitely take advantage in every aspect, now with big data... every minute information counts... so Request to Kiran Bro or Admins to make politics section a verified section so that posts made will be only from trusted members and those will be rightly received by fellow members

 

1 - Deep analysis of how TDP was rooted out in both the regions in TG & AP... how is the party disconnected from voters, what are the weak points, how to get back the affiliation, brainstorm and analyze thoroughly, nothing wrong in accepting the failed steps or strategies... spend at least a year on this area what are the reasons for the vote shift and observing the patterns of voting to other parties or candidates....

2- at the same time engage  cadre/volunteers/low string leaders  in identifying the problems of the respective constituency from ward level every bit of the problem from all sections....find the root level problems...long term and short term.. prioritize and analyze how they can be addressed and monitor for next 3-4 yrs how they are handled, and ensure they are opened up and taken care with appropriate opposition pressure on these issues, not just politicizing, but work towards real goal

3 - identify the real peoples leaders.. like how NTR located them in 82,, no jumpers from other parties, no money power based candidate selection or industrial/business background candidates for legislation or Parliament seats... fund all candidates centrally from party office and operate them in working towards one goal of winning the election

4 - Protect all the cadre in best possible way,communicate with them weekly for even 30mins, meet them on regular basis like quarterly, take teh feedback on monthly basis on how opposition and ruling party were actively among people

5 - Never rule out any caste or community, come up with an equal agenda of showing same prominence of all castes religions and regions, Jagan made 5 CM deputys, though dummies, made all major communities happy, nothing to lose for him, but a big dent for TDP for sure

6 - Go with preparing the realistic promises in agenda, dont go with freebies, like scheme like CashTransfer or farmer loans waiver etc, these are all out dated, agenda to address real problems and issues, which should have proper ideology that people can connect and get motivated to vote, 2019 agenda was noteven well received or marketed with poor management and least cared agenda with too much of an arrogance

7- Identify 2-3 Major projects possibility for every district and work out on possibilities of setting them up with experts in those areas, visit those districts regularly and put a firm plan by involving people on the proposals and possibility and see what can be worked out and promise based on that if won back to power in 2024

8 - Dont make it a dynasty party, let it look like peoples party with proper Organizational structure and make major reforms wiht the party from tip to toe and let the process run the party and let people engage in party activities 

9- GO with progressive ideology rather than hating and blame game, unite all telugus, try to put them together and show them what can we achive if we all work towards single goal of progressiveness 

This is very important. There are most section of people if some Medhavi comes and says that this can be done, people simply believe it. Whether it will happen or not is different story. Look Pawan Kalyan did. He established some fact finding committee and included Medhavis like JP and Vundavalli and that made him positive edge in most of the Neutral voters. Samaavesalu pettali, Medhavula egos satisfy cheyali. Vallu cheppinavi pettaliu manifesto lo. 

 

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6 minutes ago, ravindras said:

bharath/jr ntr

Bharath kooda same like Lokesh e. Very soft spoken. Adi work avvadhu ivvala repatlo. Look Modi. But should not be arrogant as Mamata as well.

And soooper leader vunna, dabbu dabbu dabbu anthe. Pancheyali anthe. I don't think Modi won just because of Pulwama or Hindu votes. It was money that adds up to the little positives. It is same. Look though it was safe game, how much money KCR distributed. And look at Jagan it is not just Sympathy or one chance, look at the money he distributed. 

 

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 in the current generation people not caring about ethics,morals, longterm consequences. they just want  instant gratification. they are going to any extent to satisfy their desires. many illegal relationships happening either for physical satisfaction or financial satisfaction. some people are willing to elope with wrong person if that person satisfy their immediate desires. 

earlier generation people used to give importance to person based on his good work. in the current materialistic world , looks and presentation are more important than substance. 

 

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Good SM team need to be maintained this time with immediately counter all fake news spread by sakshi or PR team.

Appoint good spokesperson for party and choose good orators for attending TV debates. Only if issue is very serious then only babu gharu will address the issue about it in press and have to keep speech short and straight to point. No more prolong speeches by babu gharu. If possible appoint good writers for speech content.

have to develop 2nd level leadership in party motham babu gharu centric gha run avutundhe and around cottery of Babu gharu andharu outdated. Have to promote new leadership.

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Just now, ravindras said:

 in the current generation people not caring about ethics,morals, longterm consequences. they just want  instant gratification. they are going to any extent to satisfy their desires. many illegal relationships happening either for physical satisfaction or financial satisfaction. some people are willing to elope with wrong person if that person satisfy their immediate desires. 

earlier generation people used to give importance to person based on his good work. in the current materialistic world , looks and presentation are more important than substance. 

 

Correct ega bro. Road meedha smart shirt vesukuni Mahesh babu la velel vaadine chustharu and anchana vestharu kaani, Mamulu chokkalesukuni tirige koteeswarudini kooda evadu chudadu.

Presentation important. Modi, Jagan, Pawan was great in presenting themselves. Pawan pichipattinattu voogipothunte manam pichodu anukunnam , kaani janam daanne aavesam, aksorsham anukunnaru. Vaadikkooda gudharu.

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1 minute ago, Bolineni Tiger said:

18 to 40 age tdp side chuse way unte emanna  chudandi 

Low level lo work cheyali bro. Jenam thone vundali. What Lokesh did during Thitli was good. He was on the ground. Pakkodu fake create chese lopu nee positive vadalali. Naa pani nenu chesukuntunnanu, jenanaki telisipodhi automatic ga ante assam e.

Own channel is much more important now than anytime else. Sakshi lo aadi propaganda ani prathodhiki telusu. But they have something to spread fake immediately or counter to if CBN says something. But we do not have it.

 

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14 minutes ago, ravikia said:

Bharath kooda same like Lokesh e. Very soft spoken. Adi work avvadhu ivvala repatlo. Look Modi. But should not be arrogant as Mamata as well.

And soooper leader vunna, dabbu dabbu dabbu anthe. Pancheyali anthe. I don't think Modi won just because of Pulwama or Hindu votes. It was money that adds up to the little positives. It is same. Look though it was safe game, how much money KCR distributed. And look at Jagan it is not just Sympathy or one chance, look at the money he distributed. 

 

north india lo liquor, money distribute cheyyaru.

bharath soft spoken ayinaa lokesh laa thadabadadu. he can raise his voice based on necessity . he able to give convincing answer to any question asked by interviewer. he never lost cool .  bharath looks & presentation are better than lokesh.

aggressive speeches kaavaalante ram mohan naidu , jr ntr mathrame option.

maa village lo tdp , ysrcp vallu equal amount  panchaaru. ysrcp vallu konthamandhi ivvaledhu . ayinaa ysrcp vallu ichinaa promises nammi vote vesaaru.

recent gaa labor anthaa ysrcp local leader(village level candidate) house ki velli banda boothulu thittaaru. meeru avi isthaam,ivi isthaam ani cheppaaru . pension 3000 annaaru . endhuku ivvaledhu ani thittaaru. 

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