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initial numbers are blotted numbers.. everyone knows that except on weekends not much people during initial months also.. anyway, once metro reach extends to corporate areas, people will start using..

note that.. metro is majorly to provide option for single drivers (bikers/cars)  to use public transport.. it wont be cheap.. it doesn't need to be.. slowly people will adjust.. 

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11 minutes ago, Uravakonda said:

antha big city and 2nd capital of india ga cheppukune HYD ke waste project la tayarayyindhi Metro. inka manaku endhuku babu.

 

oorike aa BJP ee vishayam lo anakandi.

Rates ekkuva..total project aite kani chepaleru flop or useful ah ani.. Even connectivity kuda problem undi 

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parking vundadhu , park chesthey towing chesthadu 

stations ki near by areas nunchi connectivity vundadu .....RTC still running fulls

dilsuknagar and hitech city lines kuda complete aithey some boost vastundhi metro ki if parking is provided at the satitions with minimum charge 

and metro station at miyapur ndhuku ah area lo?? they should extend it till alwyn x roads kavalantey return vachi park chesukovachu miyapur depot lo 

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7 hours ago, Uravakonda said:

antha big city and 2nd capital of india ga cheppukune HYD ke waste project la tayarayyindhi Metro. inka manaku endhuku babu.

 

oorike aa BJP ee vishayam lo anakandi.

Problem with facilities and incomplete route.  Miyapur to ameerpet ki no use. If you want go to secundrabad you have to interchange at ameerpet that takes minimum 15 min. Instead of that better go on MMTS.  

 

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10 hours ago, Uravakonda said:

antha big city and 2nd capital of india ga cheppukune HYD ke waste project la tayarayyindhi Metro. inka manaku endhuku babu.

 

oorike aa BJP ee vishayam lo anakandi.

mmts/suburban rail cost of laying tracks 20 crore/km,   metro 300 crore/km

for bangalore suburban rail center allocated 17000 crores for 160 km

even for mumbai center allocated money for suburban rail , not metro rail

mana vallu mumbai, bangalore ni vijayawada, vizag tho compare chesi edustunnaaru. just compare gdp and tax payed by people in these cities to center

in bangalore there are 10 lakhs software employees, how much tax they are paying to center government, bangalore suffering from traffic problems . software people loosing roughly 1 to 2 hours in travelling due to traffic. it affects their productivity. they are getting tired/exhausted in traffic . they are willing to pay for better transport. 

mumbai is financial capital of india , without suburban rail whole mumbai will come to halt. even current suburban rail facilities are not enough. many people are dying in suburban rail due to overcrowding. it needs capacity addition to improve people lives

hyderabad metro developed under ppp . center already allocated viability gap funding. in this metro l&t generates 50% revenue through passenger ticket prices, remaining 50% collected through add revenues, shopping malls, real estate monetization . current maximum ticket price is 60 rupees(max from end to end) for 50%,if l&t needs to get revenue only through ticket prices it have to collect 120 rupees . this is the price after center provided viability gap funding, state acquired land from its account. this project started after detailed studies of  viability requirements. they calculate based on how many people travel on metro.

now come to vijayawada and visakhapatnam. vijayawada metro is not at all viable as per niti aayog. visakhapatnam metro viable after 2041. let us assume traffic in these cities is 1/5 of hyderabad. there is no escalation in construction cost. if metro construction started now on these cities and current city traffic , travellers have to pay roughly 5 times to hyderabad charges. 

some may argue that it is the responsibility of government, so it has to be subsidized . if government has infinite money it can do that. whether these projects funded by state or center, this money is collected from people direct/indirect taxes.

some may suggest borrow from jica,france,germany . i ask one question to them . if you need 2/3 bhk for your family, will you buy palace with borrowed money to entertain friends and some distance relatives. we buy/build based on our requirement and financial condition, otherwise our family doomed. same logic apply here.

 

 

 

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future lo VJA, VZG develop ayithe ippudu aa nagarallo traffic problems tho yedusthunnatlu yedavakudadu ane ee edupu antha

oka 5 years back traffic ki , last two years nunchi traffic issues chusara meeru VJA or VZG lo

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34 minutes ago, Nfan from 1982 said:

Yeah.  Other routes kuda complete aithe definitely crowd untundhi 

asalu aa route planning ye doubt koduthundi 

naa chinnappudu 225 bus ekkali ante kastam ga vundedi, atuvantidi - just Miyapur varake stop chesaru

oka sari anni routes complete ayithe, full use vuntundi - no doubt

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27 minutes ago, ravindras said:

mmts/suburban rail cost of laying tracks 20 crore/km,   metro 300 crore/km

for bangalore suburban rail center allocated 17000 crores for 160 km

even for mumbai center allocated money for suburban rail , not metro rail

mana vallu mumbai, bangalore ni vijayawada, vizag tho compare chesi edustunnaaru. just compare gdp and tax payed by people in these cities to center

in bangalore there are 10 lakhs software employees, how much tax they are paying to center government, bangalore suffering from traffic problems . software people loosing roughly 1 to 2 hours in travelling due to traffic. it affects their productivity. they are getting tired/exhausted in traffic . they are willing to pay for better transport. 

mumbai is financial capital of india , without suburban rail whole mumbai will come to halt. even current suburban rail facilities are not enough. many people are dying in suburban rail due to overcrowding. it needs capacity addition to improve people lives

hyderabad metro developed under ppp . center already allocated viability gap funding. in this metro l&t generates 50% revenue through passenger ticket prices, remaining 50% collected through add revenues, shopping malls, real estate monetization . current maximum ticket price is 60 rupees(max from end to end) for 50%,if l&t needs to get revenue only through ticket prices it have to collect 120 rupees . this is the price after center provided viability gap funding, state acquired land from its account. this project started after detailed studies of  viability requirements. they calculate based on how many people travel on metro.

now come to vijayawada and visakhapatnam. vijayawada metro is not at all viable as per niti aayog. visakhapatnam metro viable after 2041. let us assume traffic in these cities is 1/5 of hyderabad. there is no escalation in construction cost. if metro construction started now on these cities and current city traffic , travellers have to pay roughly 5 times to hyderabad charges. 

some may argue that it is the responsibility of government, so it has to be subsidized . if government has infinite money it can do that. whether these projects funded by state or center, this money is collected from people direct/indirect taxes.

some may suggest borrow from jica,france,germany . i ask one question to them . if you need 2/3 bhk for your family, will you buy palace with borrowed money to entertain friends and some distance relatives. we buy/build based on our requirement and financial condition, otherwise our family doomed. same logic apply here.

 

 

 

Banglore,  Mumbai ni chusi memu edesedi enti... Inalla nunchi allocate chesina dabbulu ekkada dobbinchukunaru infrastructure build chesukokunda.... First nunchi Ap ki peeki ichindi ledu railways lo .. Valledo tax lu pay chestunaru antunavu... Ap lo  kuda tax pay chestunaru... Ma Railway zone, minerals, oil, gas, coal anni teesukuni velli Adevado g kinda petti ma degera nunchi tax lu ravatam ledu ani XXXXX edupulu ebduku mavi maku ivvandi maku ah musti edavalani adukpvalsina avasaram undadu... Janalu lenapudu ye metro kattu Kovali.. Lekapothe ippudu banglore lo laga land sekaruncha tanike sagam dobbinchukovali...  anni metro lu edo profits lo unatlu idi okate kadite loss lo nadustadi anatlu cheputunavu :roflmao:

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1 hour ago, MVS said:

Banglore,  Mumbai ni chusi memu edesedi enti... Inalla nunchi allocate chesina dabbulu ekkada dobbinchukunaru infrastructure build chesukokunda.... First nunchi Ap ki peeki ichindi ledu railways lo .. Valledo tax lu pay chestunaru antunavu... Ap lo  kuda tax pay chestunaru... Ma Railway zone, minerals, oil, gas, coal anni teesukuni velli Adevado g kinda petti ma degera nunchi tax lu ravatam ledu ani XXXXX edupulu ebduku mavi maku ivvandi maku ah musti edavalani adukpvalsina avasaram undadu... Janalu lenapudu ye metro kattu Kovali.. Lekapothe ippudu banglore lo laga land sekaruncha tanike sagam dobbinchukovali...  anni metro lu edo profits lo unatlu idi okate kadite loss lo nadustadi anatlu cheputunavu :roflmao:

center won't give money or permission for unviable projects. without permission state can't gets funds from foreign banks. indian banks charges 9 to 10% interest. 

you are talking about advanced planning , in hyderabad , bangalore, mumbai they built suburban/mmts rail in advance . they are much cheaper compare to metro(overhead or underground)  .  cbn  can build mmts/suburban in amaravati with his foresightedness. i am telling again, in mumbai and bangalore center allotted money for suburban rail not metro rail.

minerals, oil, gas, coal  income goes to center. this happens in entire country . it is not specific to ap

losses in any metro project can be bear upto some extent. with the same notion center provided viability gap funding 1458 crore out of 16000 crore to hyderabad metro.if it is complete waste who will fund ? whether government utilize or waste money, tax payers  have to bear the burden(indirect and direct taxes) .  

 

 

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8 minutes ago, rk09 said:

Small correction- center ki istam ayithe yemaina chestharu. Istam ledu ante not viable antaru. 

Bullet train center ki viable ayinatlu 

bullet train also unviable project . during upa time one railway official said that even if japan  offer to build bullet train project for free, i won't accept that offer. he said that train revenue won't cover even run time charges like power, maintenance etc. upa government opted for dfc(dedicated freight corridor) to enhance goods train speed and capacity. 

modi is taking up this project only to satisfy his ego. even flight charges between mumbai and ahmedabad are cheaper than bullet train charges, if government won't subsidize train tickets.

modi building sardar vallabhai patel statue at some 3000 crore, shivaji statue in mumbai (i don't know  how much it cost), ambedkar statue . yes he is wasting money. but we can't say if one guy doing mistake, i also do same.

ultimately all people will bear the burden . some people may think i am not paying income tax . even those people are paying gst when they buy soap, tooth paste,  what not? 

when i purchased bike , i saw the bill slightly roughly half the cost go to cgst+sgst+registration(road tax)+insurance . it is unfortunate that we have to bear the burden for whims of politicians.

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5 hours ago, ravindras said:

bullet train also unviable project . during upa time one railway official said that even if japan  offer to build bullet train project for free, i won't accept that offer. he said that train revenue won't cover even run time charges like power, maintenance etc. upa government opted for dfc(dedicated freight corridor) to enhance goods train speed and capacity. 

modi is taking up this project only to satisfy his ego. even flight charges between mumbai and ahmedabad are cheaper than bullet train charges, if government won't subsidize train tickets.

modi building sardar vallabhai patel statue at some 3000 crore, shivaji statue in mumbai (i don't know  how much it cost), ambedkar statue . yes he is wasting money. but we can't say if one guy doing mistake, i also do same.

ultimately all people will bear the burden . some people may think i am not paying income tax . even those people are paying gst when they buy soap, tooth paste,  what not? 

when i purchased bike , i saw the bill slightly roughly half the cost go to cgst+sgst+registration(road tax)+insurance . it is unfortunate that we have to bear the burden for whims of politicians.

Sir, Can you tell me on what basis Kanpur, Nagpur and Kochi metro was sanctioned? Vizag is far better than these cities and 9th in India in terms of GDP. Even they are planning Bullet from Nagpur to Mumbai.

When MMTS started in HYD, there were losses and now it's viable. 

If we don't start planning from now itself,  we will end up in chaos as the land rates in Vizag and Vijaywada are high.

 

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11 hours ago, Jeevgorantla said:

Sir, Can you tell me on what basis Kanpur, Nagpur and Kochi metro was sanctioned? Vizag is far better than these cities and 9th in India in terms of GDP. Even they are planning Bullet from Nagpur to Mumbai.

When MMTS started in HYD, there were losses and now it's viable. 

If we don't start planning from now itself,  we will end up in chaos as the land rates in Vizag and Vijaywada are high.

 

i don't know about viability of kanpur,nagpur,kochi metros . if the project is not viable it should not take up. but in india politics defy economics , they might sanctioned these projects for political benefit.

yes mmts metro in hyd is run with losses at the starting, now it reached break even . before constructing any project they will study projected traffic growth, they  think about longterm not short term . in the short term hyderabad metro also run in losses , it will reach break even only after 5 years. even bhogapuram airport project approved after passenger traffic growth study.

if the project runs in losses for longterm, they call it unviable. 

as per studies vizag metro viable after 2041 . government have to acquire 5 acres of private land . remaining land is government land . government can acquire those 5 acres now . metro can be constructed whenever project is viable. vijayawada metro not at all viable. atleast in amaravati cbn can plan for mmts/suburban rail instead of thinking about metro rail.  suburban rail cost 10 to 20 crore/km depends on land acquisition price. overhead metro requires 300 crore/km 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rs-6-800-cr-vijayawada-metro-hits-roadblock-centre-questions-financial-viability/story-A5YkBFLxtpEDOflpi49xrJ.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/visakhapatnam/Vizag-Metro-Rail-will-not-chug-this-year/articleshow/51752178.cms

center won't give single rupee to these projects . as ap is under financial stress it cannot fund these projects. frbm act limits borrowing capacity of state to 3% of  state gdp. if ap want to go ahead , it needs to sacrifice other projects like irrigation/roads/drinking water projects or welfare schemes like pension. 

in the following projects also external factors defy economic logic.

in hyderabad government want to provide mmts connectivity to shamshabad airport . but gmr is not providing land for mmts railway station near airport . government now decides to provide metro connectivity to airport

in bangalore, government can use existing railway tracks to provide train connectivity to airport . but government want to build metro.

 

 

 

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