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Andhra Pradesh - Very painful question "Are we part of their own version of Nationalism" & let them take time and answer


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Modi Today statement "I am with Andhra" nothing but putting  salt on the wounds....Very hard and painful to see still such a acting forgetting his emotional assurances in 2014...

 

Below, I am NOT RAISING  any RE-ORG constitution(dane mede nammakam poyindi to be frank) promises breakage by this central govt....That list is pretty clear to see for all..

Any Moodi supporter instead of personnel attacks you are welcome to justify If you think I am wrong.... re-visit Moodi 2014 speeches how badly ANdhra needed help but he back stabbed as a PM afterwards....

 

- Killed Andhra Pradesh income source denying even FInance Commission recommended "Oil Royalty" sharing....But same Finance commission excuse was shown for SS(big lie is still some other states getting SS benefits even as of Today)

- How come a state that has 2nd longest sea coast with highest demand got LEAST SAGARMALA,BHARATMALA buget allocations?

CEnter departments reports show that EAST coast of India is short of ports and demand is more.
Why Coal from Australia e.t.c is diverted to WEST ports from EAST to supply to Chattisgarh e.t.c?

- Why South&CEntral india regions that are very close to EAST ports  are forcibly connected with WEST ports building new EXPRESSWAYS when it is national loss not connecting them with EAST?

- Why India's National policy on CHina investment changes from state to state? For Gujarat&MH it is oneway but when it comes to others it is different tune?

- When GST was hurdle for ANdhra Pradesh constitution promised "TAX incentives", How come Prime minister given special "TAX incentives" for Gujarat GIFT city??

- Why PM not conducted SINGLE EAST COAST state cm's meeting or review on EAST coast INFRA&PORT projects? But every month/quarterly in-person follows SAGARMALA 2 lakh crore works in GUjarat,MH and chest thumps about them?

- NARMADA project estimates jumped about 7,000-15,000 crores per year every year last 7 years...How come 2013 act jump makes Center cry so much on Polavaram?


- On Polavaram center creating so many hurdles even after their reviews/inspections...

But they released 50,000 crores for Riverinterlink of their 3 Riverinterlink projects of their interest.... Prime Minister inperson took care of them so fast but never cared on POlavaram even our LIFELINE in these desperate situatons...

After saction of this 50,000 crore next day statement that hurt more was "We need to find how to source Tamilnadu,Godavari e.t.c River interlink"


- BHARAT MALA means only GUjarat,Maharastra connection to rest of India main motive?

Hyderabad-MUMBAI port 35,000 crores but no hands to do Hyderabad-EAST COAST port


* 1.2 lakh bullet train 

* CENTER govt approved and started 25,000 crore expressway for Mumbai-Ahmadabad Industrial corridors connectivity whe there is already present HIGHAY,old highway&bullet train e.t.c coming

- 25,000 crores for Hyderabad to Mumbai port connectivity(Picha XXXXXX evadaina 0ka 10K tho Bandar port finish chestadu) so that Hyderabad uses mumbai port

- Gujarat,MH ports got railway budgets for connectivity

Anantapur-Amaravati(wher it's taking 10-12 hours for state people) for such distance is not added to BHARAT MALA?????

 

- Why GUjarat gets penalty+interest on Oil Royalties but not ANdhra on Natural Gas e.t.c?

- Made a change to CEnturies old rule where state gets Royalty on minerals on their coast

* Just because lakhs of crores worth minerals are found in Andhra sea coast Gujarat minds started giving new definition

- Why Andhra Pradesh received least budget allocations in backward districts(old UPA time 7*50=350 crores) and not even single penny extra?

- Why Pattiseema not included part of Polavaram but a COMPLETE change Kaleswaram was treated as OLD project and part of old DPR? Don't you it even changes state boundaries compared to original plan?

- 4000 MW Indias biggest Thermal project was given clearenc so fast when crores of people are dependent on drinking on that water?

Why Andhra people are not considered when it pollutes Kirshna river and any water coming from it?


- Andhra Nuclear power plant was given all clearances in just few months but Amaravati took 3 years? Is it not clear just to hijack CBN they played game?

- When SUPREME COURT clearly defined asset division why CEnter given GO against court judgement?

* Just because AP gets breather so you did not like that!!!!

- Narmada project took just a WEEK for giving ALL CLEARENCES rejected with genunine cause in the past but ANY Andhra project takes years

- How come half knowledge no Irrigation jokers that put cases on Pulichintala in courts and opposed POlavaram project became your advisors on River interlink and Irrigation?

- That advisors till Today did not visit Polavaram as they can't digest that project progress

- WHy Andhra Land bill was rejected when same exact bill approved for GUjarat&Telangana?

- Center started project and released 5000 crores for GAS PIPELINE in Odisah....Plan is to take GAS from Vijayawada and then trasfer to Industries there...Why ANdhra Gas connectivity not gettng that funds?

- AP was praised by central rulers&committees for irrigation achivements recently(even it became subject in IAS exam)....But Andhra received least budget help in AIBP irrigation scheme of center

- Even after HUDHUD Vizag city for Navy mela did not get any money from Center(nijalu telini amayakulu adi edo center ichindi anukuntunaru....fact is they rejected finally ended as our bill) except event  stage surroundigs&Navy private parties....But same National events in other places gets center support not just stage appearencs..

- Andhra pushkars did not get any money but Ardh kumbh-mela got center budget allocation

- When fibrenet was announced CBN instead of 5000 crores found a way to do it for less with "cable on poles"..

That got appreciation but Delhi rejected help to Andhra because CBN did that!!!!!

- For MAHARASTRA center govt reimbursed land acquisition cost of Bullet train and even prepared pland to give "TAX incentivs" for giving land to bullet train....but for Andhra any land acquisition is completely state budget(whether airport,railline or highway)

- CEnter forced Gujarat state oil corp loss of 25,000 crores on Nation but crying every day on VIzag Dreding corporation

- Onside already GAMMON bankrupt and given up on HIHGWAY project...otherside you give crucial Narasapuram bridge project to GAMMON....That explains that they have no intention to finish except drama

- Total Four PCPIR projects announced.. (Vishakhapatanam-Kakinada), Gujarat (Dahej), Odisha (Paradeep) and Tamil Nadu (Cuddalore-Nagapattinam)

Gujarat one moved ahead but after so much of paperowrk,dpr Andhra one rejected...Why that harassment when you know going to reject it finally...

- Finally already announced National darama center also rejected..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vijayawada/nsds-proposed-centre-at-rajahmundry-put-on-hold/articleshow/59870161.cms

- On Vijawara Kanakadurga varadhi state bared more than what it suposed to but center still creating hurdles with twist!!! 

- Vizag ITIR also put on hold eventhough promised part of state sepration time by UPA

 

- CEntral govt should feel shame on them selves calling employees PF cost e.t.c not part of state deficit....emanna siggu unte ittanti ideas vastaya?

 

 

 

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These are not any kind of  politicalallegations but hard facts

 

90% of six lakh crroe SAGARMALA works in progress in GUjarat only and feeling proud PM&Minister to Gujju public

https://youtu.be/Xn2mLHHBl24?t=312


Andhra pradesh just 25,000 crores rejected multiple times...Even Today except giving peanuts like 25 crores not done anything to Andhra

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Setback-for-Andhra-Pradesh-Centre-not-to-fund-Sagaramala/articleshow/55060507.cms


National loss at the benefit of their...malli ellu Nationalism gurinchi cheptaru manaki

http://d2na0fb6srbte6.cloudfront.net/read/imageapi/clipimage/854076/d2193412-3e42-4241-9f7a-6896fa4b0bee


THis central govt reports of National loss&savings of 40,000 crore per year sounded only WEST coast infra uplift to this central govt

http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/coastal-shipping-of-commodities-to-save-rs-40000-crore-yearly-govt/


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Maharashtra received ₹20,100crore for Metro projects which is 42% of total in India.
 

Pune,Nagpur ki chesukondi kani Vizag em papam chesindi mari?

 

Irrigation lo India lo most appreciation vachina state ki AIBP  lo least budget!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHZ8rVmUwAAKKNW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yaF4VEO.jpg


Environmental damage is for state but they don't want Andhra to get any Royalty
But for Gujarat it is different rule!!!
http://i.imgur.com/yaF4VEO.jpg

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3 minutes ago, Raaz@NBK said:

We are not in India as per Modi/shah behaviour :sleep:

ivvala "I am with Andhra" ane a edava statement chudagane chala bada vesindi.....

4 years lo kanisam not even single day he put meeting on Andhra issues and checking progress

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2 minutes ago, AnnaGaru said:

ivvala "I am with Andhra" ane a edava statement chudagane chala bada vesindi.....

4 years lo kanisam not even single day he put meeting on Andhra issues and checking progress

he did once for 7 mandal merge i.e before CBN took oath (On CBN insistence)

aa taruvatha modalayyindi mental b odi ki

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1 minute ago, AnnaGaru said:

ivvala "I am with Andhra" ane a edava statement chudagane chala bada vesindi.....

4 years lo kanisam not even single day he put meeting on Andhra issues and checking progress

Vajapayi Garu vunna party kadhuu annai Ippudu vunnadhi.. Andhra Pradesh tho pettukuna valla charitralu chusamu.. Modi valalo oka part :sleep:

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1 minute ago, swarnandhra said:

he did once for 7 mandal merge i.e before CBN took oath (On CBN insistence)

aa taruvatha modalayyindi mental

a roju kooda CBN thana prama swekaram post-pone chesadu and Venki push chesadu....a debbake Venki ni cut chesaru along with CBN

* If you reemember he was last to sworn in after 1 month of election results in 2014

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Sontha state mxxxx iyna parledhu Anie bjp Nd jaffas ki support chestuna batch vunnatha varaku intey.Even some educated fools also they know what’s happening Nd how much we are suffering still blind hatred towards cbn Nd TDP 

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30 minutes ago, Raaz@NBK said:

Vajapayi Garu vunna party kadhuu annai Ippudu vunnadhi.. Andhra Pradesh tho pettukuna valla charitralu chusamu.. Modi valalo oka part :sleep:

exactly bro... AP tho pettukunna vallu baagu padaledhu ippativaruku...

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Below are the points Modi&Shah in their campaign highlighted in Gujarat election....Compare that with desperate Andhra situation looking for help
 

* Our Sagarmala and Bharatmala project transforming coastal economy and benefit people living on our coasts
* in 14 days of becoming PM gave permission to Narmada Dam increase clearing all environment&permission hurdles directly
* Released OIL royalty of 8000 crore+5000 crore interest=130000 crores for Gujarat
* State got 63000 crore under UPA where as now getting 1,60,000
* Highways "extended" beyond 1200 KM in 3 years
* 33 New trains for Gujarat added(Is that enough or need more? :sleep:)
* Given AIIMS for Gujarat and started works
* central schemes rolled out in the last three years – Mudra bank, Ujjwala Yojana – have benefited state the most
* Bullet train with 1.2 lakh crore on our soil
* Special GST exemption given which will benefit our Jewellery traders

* Gave special Tax incentives for GUjarat GIFT city(which is against GST principles by the way that they lecture Andhra even though promised in AP RE-ORG)

 

Gadkari&Fadnavis in Maharastra(* Note Gadkari is handling SAGARMALA(7 lakh crore),BHARATMALA(10 lakh crore),RIVERINTERLINK(7 lakh crore) and all of the not even single major project grounded except their personel preferenes for their region)

 
- network of national highways in Maharashtra increased from 5,000 km to 20,000 km(Andhra is begging for help on State capital connectity promised in RE-ORG)

- Under the Pradhan Mantri Krishi Sinchan Yojana, the Centre has sanctioned Rs 26,000 crore—worth works in Maharashtra, possibly the largest allocation under the scheme in the country

- submitted irrigation proposals worth Rs 24,000 crore to  that benefits Maharashtra

- Mumbai-NAGPUR Bullet train .....Already NEW EXPRESS WAY works started between Nagpur-Mumbai with 20,000+ crores  :wall:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/fadnavis-pacified-with-mumbai-nagpur-bullet-train-at-last-minute/467083.html
 

 

/***************But for AP you snatched what congress has left/assured also...Even scrapped Finance committe report which recommended 50% stake to states on offshore drill......But you lied that same Finance committee stopped SS to Andhra *********/

http://epaper.eenadu.net/index.php?rt=image/index/img/20171216a_016135015.jpg

Andhra has more casulaties than any other states in OIL drilling.....KG basin has worst accidents in Natural Gas drilling multiple times..

Our region has PIPELINES/DEATHlines under our houses&fields and it has become common accidental zone

Our region has wells all around villages in "highly dense" region of KG basin

Offshore drill in our region is already effecting Fisher community

CEntral govt studies clearly reported

- Tremors are possible in KG basin

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Extraction-of-shale-gas-from-KG-basin-may-trigger-tremors/articleshow/55630449.cms

- Marine life is badly impacted already as per studies

 

 

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These guys started giving their own interpretation to Constituion of India ...Also their own versions in understadning  Finance commission the way they want.....12th FS clearly gave recommendations on offshore 

 

Read this and how shameless they found new definition for CONSTITUTION of India and FINANCE COMMISSION(same ones used for their lies on Special Status) ....So FInance commission does not know constitution but these guys found new meaning?

http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Editors-Desk/2015-07-01/Royalty-on-gas--rights-of-AP/160613

 

/*********The 12th Finance Commission has recommended that the States have to get appropriate share in profit petroleum. But, the thinking of the Central government is that there is a distinction between the Articles 296 and 297 of the Constitution of India. As per the Article 296 of the Constitution, the States have ownership rights on all lands and minerals located within the territory of the state. 

Under the Article 297, all lands, minerals and other things of value underlying the ocean within the territorial water or the continental shelf or exclusive economic zone of India vest in the Union and are held for the purpose of Union. The States like Andhra Pradesh will be losing due to the distinction between onshore  and offshore  resources. Even the offshore exploration and development would impose an enormous stress on the infrastructure and environment of the basin State. 

 

The Constitution does not prohibit the Centre from sharing the royalty or profit petroleum with the States concerned even if it is offshore.  Andhra Pradesh, therefore, has every right in expecting a share in profit petroleum accrued to the States. Chief Minister Chandrababu Naidu has done a right thing by placing this demand before the Centre once again. But, the Union Minister remained non-committal stating that the law of the land would be followed. But, the law can be interpreted to deny the right to Andhra Pradesh. 

 

 Reason why they came with new lies and drama iand giving new interpretation because ANdhra coast in-addition to Offshore royalty alo gets complete share in Minerals(started auction for 50000 crores in december) in Bay of Bengal in less than 12 Nautical miles

THese fellows also started giving new definition to what was there for decades before pre/post independence followed in India on "12 Nautical miles belongs to STATE" rule also...

 

Started new drama on "12 nautical miles" decades old process because Andhra coast recently found lakhs of crores Minerals that are very rare&valubale in the world 

 

50,000 crores mineral blocks AUCTION process started in DECEMBER-2017 which are just ONE METER under sea level

 

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/gsi-finds-huge-mineral-deposits-along-ap-coast/article21383731.ece

 

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CBN is a threat to Modi.. Hence he don't encourage CBN .   What more do you expect ?

Keeping this aside, AP people em thega majority / MP seats em ivvaledu cbn ki center lo value icchenthala.. 

 

Ippatkaina campaign chesi AP lo 20+ mp seats icchela cheskovali.. 

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We are not part of their nationalism. I have been saying this in many posts before. They dont hate us openly as muslims because they think we can be pushed around unlike muslims. But if we stand up for ourselves they hate us as much as muslims.  The easiest way to instill fear in them is to ditch hinduism and adopt other religions. Nothin will shock them more than adopting islam. Just a few conversions in meenakshipuram bought the whole rss down there. Other options is converting to budhism. If converting is too drastic then we need a social revolution emphasizing telugu identity and that we will not be played with. 

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55 minutes ago, lovemystate said:

We are not part of their nationalism. I have been saying this in many posts before. They dont hate us openly as muslims because they think we can be pushed around unlike muslims. But if we stand up for ourselves they hate us as much as muslims.  The easiest way to instill fear in them is to ditch hinduism and adopt other religions. Nothin will shock them more than adopting islam. Just a few conversions in meenakshipuram bought the whole rss down there. Other options is converting to budhism. If converting is too drastic then we need a social revolution emphasizing telugu identity and that we will not be played with. 

nee line and length chusthunte muchata vestundhi bro.

nee background thelusukovalani curious ga undhi...asala ila ela alochistharu ani mainstream media lo konthamandhi ni chusthe anipisthundhi db lo matuku idhe first anthukani

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1 minute ago, Kiran said:

nee line and length chusthunte muchata vestundhi bro.

nee background thelusukovalani curious ga undhi...asala ila ela alochistharu ani mainstream media lo konthamandhi ni chusthe anipisthundhi db lo matuku idhe first anthukani

 

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10 hours ago, abhi said:

Sontha state mxxxx iyna parledhu Anie bjp Nd jaffas ki support chestuna batch vunnatha varaku intey.Even some educated fools also they know what’s happening Nd how much we are suffering still blind hatred towards cbn Nd TDP 

 

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1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

We are not part of their nationalism. I have been saying this in many posts before. They dont hate us openly as muslims because they think we can be pushed around unlike muslims. But if we stand up for ourselves they hate us as much as muslims.  The easiest way to instill fear in them is to ditch hinduism and adopt other religions. Nothin will shock them more than adopting islam. Just a few conversions in meenakshipuram bought the whole rss down there. Other options is converting to budhism. If converting is too drastic then we need a social revolution emphasizing telugu identity and that we will not be played with. 

People who have no pride in the past, they are converting ante oka ardham undi... "Andhra" vadi ga puttadam lo ne oka pride undi.. Forget about caste histories etc... 

Those converting people are choosing backward castes because, they are are typically available with their presence stuck in lost/unfound pride from the past, other than just being economically vulnerable. I hope you can come over this mindset that, for withstanding an attack, we need to change ourselves into what we are not! That will be the first admission of weakness. "You just need a sharper knife, not a hammer"!

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1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

We are not part of their nationalism. I have been saying this in many posts before. They dont hate us openly as muslims because they think we can be pushed around unlike muslims. But if we stand up for ourselves they hate us as much as muslims.  The easiest way to instill fear in them is to ditch hinduism and adopt other religions. Nothin will shock them more than adopting islam. Just a few conversions in meenakshipuram bought the whole rss down there. Other options is converting to budhism. If converting is too drastic then we need a social revolution emphasizing telugu identity and that we will not be played with. 

I might accept their Nationalism than converting to other religions... I am proud being Hindu and being Indian and I know that one day India will again rule the world..

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16 hours ago, lovemystate said:

We are not part of their nationalism. I have been saying this in many posts before. They dont hate us openly as muslims because they think we can be pushed around unlike muslims. But if we stand up for ourselves they hate us as much as muslims.  The easiest way to instill fear in them is to ditch hinduism and adopt other religions. Nothin will shock them more than adopting islam. Just a few conversions in meenakshipuram bought the whole rss down there. Other options is converting to budhism. If converting is too drastic then we need a social revolution emphasizing telugu identity and that we will not be played with. 

 

velli Jaffas ki cheppukondi ittantivi.......Rajareddy chesindi ade kada so vallu baga attract avutaru...

fake id tho games ikkada vaddu......e db lo janalu mi Jaffa friends laga kadu....

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I am seeing the issue here. You guys are thinking if you reject the horror and second grade status bestowed by Hinduism then you will lose your identity or your sense of self. Thats a total mistake. Yes you will lose if a brutal foreign invader is forcing you to do so. But a people never lost their identity when , they on their own decided to reform themselves and make themselves better. Infact their identity was strengthened. Several examples :

a) When northern europe rejected the nonsense that is coming from Pope and reformed christianity with protestant religion, they lost none of their identity. in fact after the reformation the northern european states of england, germany, netherlands etc massively developed over catholic italy, spain etc.

b. When japanese decided to end their shogun caste system and decided to actually shoot shoguns their japanese identity actually strengthened. Recollect shogun system seemed like a huge part of japanese culture then.

c) Mao brutally ended several chinese cultural practices like foot binding, sex slavery, ancestor worship. Most chinese religions were effectively banned. Did chinese lost their culture now ? no way with their increased prosperity they are celebrating their cultures even better.

So on and so forth.

Throwing hinduism out or atleast massively reforming it (not listen to cock and bull marketing stories of garikipati or vivekananda i am talking about serious rigorous theoretical and practical reform) will no way requires throwing up any aspect of identity. You can keep everything - language, names, temple architecture, annamayya kirtans, carnatic music - EVERYTHING. I am only asking that you throw away the much of hinduism not your entire culture. As Rajmatha Shivagamai says in Baahubali "Mahismati ki makili pattindhi - raktham tho kadigeyandira" - hinduism is the makili which is making us weak, easily manipulated. Cleansing it will make us better.

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1 hour ago, lovemystate said:

I am seeing the issue here. You guys are thinking if you reject the horror and second grade status bestowed by Hinduism then you will lose your identity or your sense of self. Thats a total mistake. Yes you will lose if a brutal foreign invader is forcing you to do so. But a people never lost their identity when , they on their own decided to reform themselves and make themselves better. Infact their identity was strengthened. Several examples :

second grade status enti confused soul.. Kamma, Kapu, Reddy, Yadava, Gouda castes anni shudras kadha... but they are enjoying better status than other castes in AP... same in TN... Gounder, Vanniyar‎ lanti schedule castes are enjoying better status... ila we can take every state... niku caste ela vachhindhi kuda telvadu anukunta..  so better close ur school here..

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4 minutes ago, katti said:

second grade status enti confused soul.. Kamma, Kapu, Reddy, Yadava, Gouda castes anni shudras kadha... but they are enjoying better status than other castes in AP... same in TN... Gounder, Vanniyar‎ lanti schedule castes are enjoying better status... ila we can take every state... niku caste ela vachhindhi kuda telvadu anukunta..  so better close ur school here..

Enjoying better status like what ? they have officially fourth status in their religion. Making some money here , becoming a neta there is not enough. Every people need an idelogy or a world view where they have atleast an equal status. Basically nee burraki ivanni alochinchatam oka pani laga vuntundhi. Yedo thintannam, yeruguthunnam ivi anni manaky yendhuku - nannu hindu ani evado annadu nuvvu hindu thidethi naaki kopam vasthandi - this is your mentality.

Leave these discussion - you are not fit for these discussion with the atitude you have. Or change the attitude.

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