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India's retort to Devayani Khorbragade's arrest


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from an US perspective it may be a routine affair.....but from a general perspective, its clearly a case of over-reaction from US.....after all she is not a criminal, she is a Diplomat..atleast she could have been warned prior to this public humiliation or Indian govt pressurized to take action on her violations of laws of US....in terms of foreign policy, this is also clearly a humiliation to India.....India is no sub-ordinate country like Saudi Arabia, it deserves it own respect as a sovereign country.....Previously Rahul Gandhi was also detained in US airports for carrying dollars more than the stipulated limit, he was interrogated, warned and finally let off.....there is no public humilation and its very much welcome...sadly its true that this current UPA govt had behaved more as a slave, very meek in its dealings....baanisalegaa inko debba thenkina attane padi untaaru le ani anukuni untaaru US ollu.....ippatikaina poyindhemi ledhu.. once this dust settles down, it will be business as usual..

idi maree baagundi....itta warnings alavaatu chestey akkada policulaki kooda inka janaalu dadavaru...pratee country lo negative points vunnai kaadananu...but comparatively better police system vundi US lo mana kante....adi atta vundabatte janalaki bakthi gouravam and bayam vunnai...mana laaga kaakunda...

 

inka diplomats aina marokkalaina alage chestaru vaallu....aina vaallu embassy loki vellalede...bayata edaina US land e...and Indian embassy premises daatina tarvaata vaallaki US rules e.....no different than ordinary US citizen.This is rule.

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In America law is law... Even govt can not meddle in it

Saati telugodina JP dippa pina kotti the dikku ledu.....ekkado america lo jarigini daaniki enduku egaradam....that is the f reason law will never be allowed to do its business in India.... we don't support strict laws...

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idi maree baagundi....itta warnings alavaatu chestey akkada policulaki kooda inka janaalu dadavaru...pratee country lo negative points vunnai kaadananu...but comparatively better police system vundi US lo mana kante....adi atta vundabatte janalaki bakthi gouravam and bayam vunnai...mana laaga kaakunda...

 

inka diplomats aina marokkalaina alage chestaru vaallu....aina vaallu embassy loki vellalede...bayata edaina US land e...and Indian embassy premises daatina tarvaata vaallaki US rules e.....no different than ordinary US citizen.This is rule.

 

nuvu super anthe :smoke2:

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idi maree baagundi....itta warnings alavaatu chestey akkada policulaki kooda inka janaalu dadavaru...pratee country lo negative points vunnai kaadananu...but comparatively better police system vundi US lo mana kante....adi atta vundabatte janalaki bakthi gouravam and bayam vunnai...mana laaga kaakunda...

 

inka diplomats aina marokkalaina alage chestaru vaallu....aina vaallu embassy loki vellalede...bayata edaina US land e...and Indian embassy premises daatina tarvaata vaallaki US rules e.....no different than ordinary US citizen.This is rule.

 

idhi nuvvu seppinattu oka ordinary criminal ki oka police ki madyana issue aiythe....whatever they did is right.....But No...This is a much larger issue, where the interests of the countries are at stake...rendu desala madhayna dvaipakshika sambandhaalani prabhavitham chese issue.....anthe kaadhu.this will also put the prestige of various Indian diplomats working throughout the world in different countries down, if it is not countered properly...ikapothe she is a Career diplomat working for the Indian govt and her diplomatic immunity is not just limited to  the premises of Indian consular general's office.....as a high ranking official, she is entitled to such immunity whereever she travels......

 

by the way, I deeply respect US police....vaalla pani theeru antha baaga nachchuthundhi naakaithe.....that doesn't mean they are completly flawless....this particular action against the Diplomat is completly un-warranted ..and could have handled it in a much better way.....None will deny the importance of strict law enforcement, but there are due protocols that needs to be followed...

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idi maree baagundi....itta warnings alavaatu chestey akkada policulaki kooda inka janaalu dadavaru...pratee country lo negative points vunnai kaadananu...but comparatively better police system vundi US lo mana kante....adi atta vundabatte janalaki bakthi gouravam and bayam vunnai...mana laaga kaakunda...

 

inka diplomats aina marokkalaina alage chestaru vaallu....aina vaallu embassy loki vellalede...bayata edaina US land e...and Indian embassy premises daatina tarvaata vaallaki US rules e.....no different than ordinary US citizen.This is rule.

No, they can arrest diplomats only in special cases like murders...in other cases they will ask Indian government to take back their diplomats...

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idhi nuvvu seppinattu oka ordinary criminal ki oka police ki madyana issue aiythe....whatever they did is right.....But No...This is a much larger issue, where the interests of the countries are at stake...rendu desala madhayna dvaipakshika sambandhaalani prabhavitham chese issue.....anthe kaadhu.this will also put the prestige of various Indian diplomats working throughout the world in different countries down, if it is not countered properly...ikapothe she is a Career diplomat working for the Indian govt and her diplomatic immunity is not just limited to  the premises of Indian consular general's office.....as a high ranking official, she is entitled to such immunity whereever she travels......

 

by the way, I deeply respect US police....vaalla pani theeru antha baaga nachchuthundhi naakaithe.....that doesn't mean they are completly flawless....this particular action against the Diplomat is completly un-warranted ..and could have handled it in a much better way.....None will deny the importance of strict law enforcement, but there are due protocols that needs to be followed...

 

Under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Indian Deputy Consul General enjoys immunity from the jurisdiction of US courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions.

 

Accused under any felony will diminish the Diplomatic Immunity.

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Under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Indian Deputy Consul General enjoys immunity from the jurisdiction of US courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions.

 

Accused under any felony will diminish the Diplomatic Immunity.

 

US representative ichchina statements as it is ga copy sesukochchaavga Bijiwada lionu....inthaki aame commit chesina felony enti.....asala inthaki felony ante enti....? Does it come into any of the serious categories of felony , that will impinge upon her Diplomatic immunity?

 

Felonies include but are not limited to the following:

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US representative ichchina statements as it is ga copy sesukochchaavga Bijiwada lionu....inthaki aame commit chesina felony enti.....asala inthaki felony ante enti....? Does it come into any of the serious categories of felony , that will impinge upon her Diplomatic immunity?

 

Felonies include but are not limited to the following:

 

yes...copied e...naaku sontha talent ledu uncle... :whistling:

 

paina list lo devyani chesina tappu ledaaa? adena mee argument??

 

aina but not limited to...ani rasadu gaa paina....

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yes...copied e...naaku sontha talent ledu uncle... :whistling:

 

paina list lo devyani chesina tappu ledaaa? adena mee argument??

 

aina but not limited to...ani rasadu gaa paina....

 

antha maatram violation  ki antha hadavidi anavasaram ani antunna.....charges ento....both sides of the story ento nuvve choodu

 

Background

Devyani Khobragade, a mid-ranking, young diplomat currently posted as Deputy Consul General for Political, Economic, Commercial and Women's Affairs was arrested by the New York police on Thursday. The US authorities accused her of helping the Indian nanny in submitting fake documents to the US State Department saying that she was paying $4,500 per month, when in reality, the nanny or the domestic help got only $573 a month. Devyani had hired the nanny in 2012 and she was working as a babysitter and domestic help at her house in the upscale Manhattan area of New York till last June.

According to New York Times the diplomat is accused of telling the woman to lie on her visa application to get to the United States and say she was going to be paid the higher amount. Then, Khobragade allegedly had the woman sign a second, under-the-radar contract that noted the nanny's monthly salary including overtime - the much smaller amount. The nanny and her husband, who were not named, are serving as witnesses in the case.

 

Charges

As per the US laws which are extremely hard on human exploitation and human trafficking, Devyani has committed a very serious crime. The Manhattan US Attorney of Indian origin Preet Barara who has ordered the arrest of Devyani terms the charges as very serious. Talking to the media he said, "This type of fraud on the USA and exploitation of an individual will not be tolerated."

According to him she has been charged with one count each of visa fraud and making false statements. Devyani is now out on bail. Her lawyer Daniel Arshack claims that she enjoys diplomatic immunity and she can't be prosecuted under the US law.

US argument

But US authorities are maintaining that she does not enjoy diplomatic immunity and the judiciary is independent like India. It is denying that the proper procedure was not followed the arrest.

"Our Diplomatic Security folks followed our standard procedures, which I'm assuming are standard for diplomats because that's who our Diplomatic Security deals with," a US State Department spokesman said.

According to a US news agency report the US spokesman added that under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Indian Deputy Consul General enjoys immunity from the jurisdiction of US courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions.

"There are different kinds of immunity. This isn't just in the US; it's all around the world. So in this case, she fell under that specific kind of immunity, and would be liable to arrest pending trial pursuant a felony arrest warrant," says US State department complicating the matters for India.

India's Defence

Devyani's arrest has rattled the Indian Diplomatic Corps. It is forcing the government to hit back at the US. According to Indian diplomats serving in the Western countries, paying lesser than what is actually on official papers is a common practice among the Indian diplomats. They claim that the salary fixed by the US government is too high for the Indian diplomats.

They argue that they can't afford to pay $4500 (approximately Rs 2.80 lakh per month) to a domestic help or a nanny as the salary of most of the diplomats is around Rs 3 lakh per month. Devyani herself is getting not more than Rs 4 lakh per month. They are demanding that the US State department should not apply such illogical rules to Indian diplomats.

A serving diplomat on the condition of anonymity said, "These US laws are stupid. How can a mid-ranking diplomat pay Rs 2.5-3 lakh to her nanny? We don't get paid millions of dollars. Our government must make it clear to the US government or it should pay the salary stipulated by the US."

According to experts, in the US, the judiciary is independent and the government interference is not tolerated. Moreover, Attorney Preet Barara wants to prove that he is more American than the original Americans by taking on Indians accused of committing a crime. They even mention the Rajat Gupta incident.

Legally speaking, as per the US laws Devyani is in a big trouble. India can't do much as it concerns the US laws, which is paramount for the host country. She can escape from the clutches of the US laws, only if the Indian government forces the American government to extend diplomatic immunity to her. Even if she survives, chances of her continuing to work there or going back to the US again look bleak.

The collateral damage of the whole row is Indo-US relations.

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aameni arrest chesindi indian embassy lo kaadey?? :dream: :dream:

 

Brother..Take the whole meaning of the post, not line by line..I was just referring to the powers of Diplomatic immunity..

She carries some of them with her wherever she goes..

 

inka diplomats aina marokkalaina alage chestaru vaallu....aina vaallu embassy loki vellalede...bayata edaina US land e...and Indian embassy premises daatina tarvaata vaallaki US rules e.....no different than ordinary US citizen.This is rule.

Idemi rule..There are lot many exceptions to it..

 

 

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Congress/UPA edi chesina thappe ani or just political mileage kosame chesthunnarani anatam wrong .. manchi chesinappudu we have to commend them .. :cheers:

 

Good job guys .. konchem thella tholu ante valledo potu gallu ane feeling nunchi ippatikina bayataki ravataniki try cheyyandi ..  :super:

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